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APG #4: T165E2 Ontos, T88 HMC, T23s
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Neil_Baumgardner
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:40 am
Post subject: APG #4: T165E2 Ontos, T88 HMC, T23s

The vehicles that were in the lot along with an active motor pool have also been moved

T165E2 Ontos

Sorry Don, those doors are welded shut. Why, I dont know... But the only way you are getting in is with a blow-torch...

T88 HMC based on Hellcat chassis

T23s

Unfortunately I cannot find a strip with the SN near the left fender on either example like Don found on Knox's T23...

Inside the turret - pretty certain thats equipment from being used as an armored videocamera stand...

Oh yeah, anyone catch anything in these pictures that doesnt seem to belong? Wink

Neil

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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:46 am Post subject: Re: APG #4: T165E2 Ontos, T88 HMC, T23s
- Neil_Baumgardner Oh yeah, anyone catch anything in these pictures that doesnt seem to belong? Neil The Mustang or the Am-bu-lance?

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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:56 am Post subject: Re: APG #4: T165E2 Ontos, T88 HMC, T23s
You got it... Actually my Mustang has snuck into a bunch of pics before... It was the Ambulance - one of the tour members brought his M43 3/4-ton ambulance on post... It was kinda funny leading that ambulance around post... Neil

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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 12:56 pm
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Sorry Don, those doors are welded shut. Why, I dont know... But the only way you are getting in is with a blow-torch...

Thanks Neil

Too bad I couldn't locate track for it. Although I have found some 'spare' track, it comes with a bit of an unreasonable price.

Just a thought,.....Perhaps a portable grinder would do the trick. I've gotten a lot of experience in weld grinding lately.... Wink

Thanks again
Don

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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: APG #4: T165E2 Ontos, T88 HMC, T23s
So what's in store for these (T23's) old girls? It's really a shame to see them in that shape.

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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:21 pm
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- JeffStringer

So what's in store for these (T23's) old girls? It's really a shame to see them in that shape.

Last I heard there were no plans for them. Ever since they came out from behind the fence a few years ago I have been trying to convince folks that at least one should be put into the collection and the other preserved for future use. It will be interesting to see what happens when they start moving items to Ft Lee

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