±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 542
Total: 542
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Photo Gallery
02: Home
03: Community Forums
04: Home
05: Community Forums
06: Member Screenshots
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Downloads
12: Downloads
13: Community Forums
14: Home
15: Home
16: Photo Gallery
17: Downloads
18: Photo Gallery
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Photo Gallery
22: Home
23: Photo Gallery
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: Member Screenshots
27: Home
28: Community Forums
29: News
30: Downloads
31: Home
32: Home
33: Home
34: Downloads
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Home
38: Member Screenshots
39: Community Forums
40: Home
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Member Screenshots
48: Home
49: Photo Gallery
50: Member Screenshots
51: Downloads
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Photo Gallery
58: Home
59: Community Forums
60: Your Account
61: Community Forums
62: Home
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Home
66: Home
67: Home
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Home
71: Community Forums
72: Member Screenshots
73: Photo Gallery
74: Home
75: Downloads
76: News Archive
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Photo Gallery
80: Community Forums
81: Home
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Photo Gallery
85: Downloads
86: Home
87: Home
88: Community Forums
89: Downloads
90: Photo Gallery
91: Community Forums
92: News Archive
93: Photo Gallery
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Downloads
97: Photo Gallery
98: Member Screenshots
99: Downloads
100: Photo Gallery
101: Statistics
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Member Screenshots
106: Home
107: Downloads
108: Community Forums
109: Photo Gallery
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Statistics
113: Photo Gallery
114: Photo Gallery
115: Statistics
116: Downloads
117: Photo Gallery
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Home
121: Photo Gallery
122: Community Forums
123: Photo Gallery
124: Home
125: Community Forums
126: Home
127: Home
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Member Screenshots
133: Photo Gallery
134: Downloads
135: Community Forums
136: Member Screenshots
137: Home
138: Photo Gallery
139: Home
140: Member Screenshots
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Home
145: Community Forums
146: News
147: Member Screenshots
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Your Account
151: Community Forums
152: Home
153: News Archive
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Home
157: Your Account
158: Community Forums
159: Home
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Home
163: Downloads
164: Community Forums
165: Photo Gallery
166: Photo Gallery
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Home
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Home
173: Community Forums
174: Statistics
175: Member Screenshots
176: Home
177: Home
178: Member Screenshots
179: Home
180: Home
181: Member Screenshots
182: Home
183: Photo Gallery
184: Community Forums
185: Downloads
186: Member Screenshots
187: Community Forums
188: Member Screenshots
189: Community Forums
190: Downloads
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Member Screenshots
194: Home
195: News Archive
196: Photo Gallery
197: Home
198: Community Forums
199: Home
200: Photo Gallery
201: Photo Gallery
202: Member Screenshots
203: Home
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Home
207: Community Forums
208: Photo Gallery
209: Photo Gallery
210: Photo Gallery
211: Community Forums
212: Downloads
213: Your Account
214: Community Forums
215: Downloads
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Downloads
219: Home
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Home
224: Home
225: Community Forums
226: News Archive
227: Member Screenshots
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Home
231: Community Forums
232: Home
233: Community Forums
234: Photo Gallery
235: Photo Gallery
236: Community Forums
237: Photo Gallery
238: Community Forums
239: Home
240: News Archive
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Home
245: Downloads
246: Community Forums
247: Photo Gallery
248: Downloads
249: Photo Gallery
250: Community Forums
251: Your Account
252: Member Screenshots
253: Home
254: Downloads
255: Community Forums
256: Member Screenshots
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Photo Gallery
261: Community Forums
262: Photo Gallery
263: Community Forums
264: Downloads
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Member Screenshots
273: Member Screenshots
274: Home
275: Home
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Home
279: Community Forums
280: Member Screenshots
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Home
290: News
291: Community Forums
292: Photo Gallery
293: Photo Gallery
294: Home
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Photo Gallery
300: Photo Gallery
301: Home
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Photo Gallery
305: Photo Gallery
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Downloads
309: Home
310: Community Forums
311: Home
312: Member Screenshots
313: Home
314: Home
315: Member Screenshots
316: Home
317: Community Forums
318: Photo Gallery
319: Photo Gallery
320: Home
321: Community Forums
322: Member Screenshots
323: Community Forums
324: Home
325: Community Forums
326: Photo Gallery
327: Member Screenshots
328: Photo Gallery
329: Community Forums
330: Photo Gallery
331: Photo Gallery
332: Home
333: Home
334: Community Forums
335: Member Screenshots
336: Downloads
337: Community Forums
338: Home
339: Community Forums
340: Home
341: Photo Gallery
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Home
345: Community Forums
346: Contact
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Photo Gallery
350: News Archive
351: Community Forums
352: Photo Gallery
353: Community Forums
354: Home
355: Community Forums
356: Photo Gallery
357: Community Forums
358: Member Screenshots
359: Community Forums
360: Home
361: Community Forums
362: Home
363: Community Forums
364: Member Screenshots
365: Photo Gallery
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Home
373: Home
374: Downloads
375: Community Forums
376: Photo Gallery
377: Community Forums
378: Home
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Community Forums
383: Photo Gallery
384: Community Forums
385: Downloads
386: Home
387: Home
388: Community Forums
389: Home
390: Downloads
391: Community Forums
392: Photo Gallery
393: Downloads
394: Community Forums
395: Photo Gallery
396: Community Forums
397: Member Screenshots
398: Community Forums
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Member Screenshots
402: Statistics
403: Home
404: Home
405: Downloads
406: Statistics
407: News Archive
408: Member Screenshots
409: Downloads
410: Home
411: Home
412: Community Forums
413: Member Screenshots
414: Community Forums
415: Community Forums
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Home
419: Home
420: Photo Gallery
421: Home
422: Member Screenshots
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Member Screenshots
426: Community Forums
427: Home
428: Downloads
429: Photo Gallery
430: Home
431: Home
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Community Forums
435: Photo Gallery
436: Photo Gallery
437: Home
438: Community Forums
439: Community Forums
440: Photo Gallery
441: Community Forums
442: Community Forums
443: Photo Gallery
444: Home
445: Your Account
446: Photo Gallery
447: Community Forums
448: Home
449: Home
450: Community Forums
451: Downloads
452: Community Forums
453: Member Screenshots
454: Member Screenshots
455: Home
456: Home
457: Community Forums
458: Member Screenshots
459: Downloads
460: News
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Home
464: Home
465: Home
466: Community Forums
467: Community Forums
468: Community Forums
469: News Archive
470: Home
471: Photo Gallery
472: Home
473: Home
474: Community Forums
475: Member Screenshots
476: Community Forums
477: Photo Gallery
478: Community Forums
479: Community Forums
480: Community Forums
481: Downloads
482: Home
483: Community Forums
484: Downloads
485: Photo Gallery
486: Your Account
487: Home
488: Community Forums
489: Member Screenshots
490: Home
491: Community Forums
492: Community Forums
493: Home
494: Community Forums
495: Member Screenshots
496: Member Screenshots
497: Downloads
498: Community Forums
499: Home
500: Photo Gallery
501: Home
502: Photo Gallery
503: Member Screenshots
504: Photo Gallery
505: Home
506: Photo Gallery
507: Home
508: Photo Gallery
509: Community Forums
510: Downloads
511: Community Forums
512: Home
513: Community Forums
514: Home
515: Photo Gallery
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Photo Gallery
519: Community Forums
520: Home
521: Home
522: Statistics
523: Home
524: Photo Gallery
525: Photo Gallery
526: Home
527: Photo Gallery
528: Home
529: Downloads
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Member Screenshots
533: Community Forums
534: Home
535: Home
536: Community Forums
537: Photo Gallery
538: Photo Gallery
539: Community Forums
540: Home
541: Member Screenshots
542: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Something new at Ft Bliss Texas 2. It's a LINGLE!!!!!!!!!!!
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:31 am
Post subject: Something new at Ft Bliss Texas 2. It's a LINGLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Folks!
Sorry about that title.
[img][/img]
[img][/img]
[img][/img]
[img][/img]
[img][/img]
The number looks like 2363 on the left side. The number on the right side is stamped twice. The high number is 236 with a 3 stamped over the 6. Low stamping is 2363, the same as the left side. Serial Number????
[img][/img]

My first love has returned to Ft. Bliss. She not an A2, but an A0 is better that no Lingle at all.
Spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:37 pm
Post subject: Re: Something new at Ft Bliss Texas 2. It's a LINGLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmmm.... Same vehicle?

www.primeportal.net/ap...ueck/m114/

The Bliss one seems to be a good bit more scratched up/paint flaked off on the front...

Unfortunately we have determined that the numbers stamped below the tow lugs are not the SNs... The "Lingle" is apparently the one (?) US vehicle that doesnt have the SN stamped on the outside somewhere...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Something new at Ft Bliss Texas 2. It's a LINGLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Neil! Hi Fokls!

I think you are correct. (Update: Check out the right front headlight guard. Both vehicles have the same damage!) Looking at the headlight groups on both sides, both vehicles have the same items missing. I tried to move the surfboard base, it is rusted in place.

I remember back before I drop out off the internet for a few years we all had figured out that the M114 didn't have exterier SN numbers. I was thinking that passed reports had listed different numbers on the two sides. I was very surpised to see the same number on each side. I was just wondering if any thing had changed while I was lost.

Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:11 am
Post subject: Re: Something new at Ft Bliss Texas 2. It's a LINGLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Folks!

Update on that M114.
The serial number is 2374 and May 1964 is stamped into data plate at the bottom right corner. The RN looks like it was 2AH88. That doesn't line up with any RN's that I can seen in any of the photos that where taken of vehicles in service. That number was painted on the side hull, then repainted over the first one, a bit higher and a little forward of the first one, before both of those layers where painted over with third layer of OD paint.

Last Sunday I was able to open the driver's hatch and climb down inside. I think I am getting a bit to old to be climbing around inside a Lingle!

This old Lingle is not what she seams to be when looking at the outside of her. The first odd thing I noticed was the storage marking on the right wall below that cannon plug. What does that say? Spare feeder? What spare feeder? The M114A0 had a flex mounted M2 HB 50 Cal MG, no need for a spare feeder. The M114A1 had a cradle mounted M2 HB TT 50 Cal MG, again no need for a spare feeder. WAIT A MINUTE! The M114A2 mounted a M139 20mm auto cannon! IT USED A FEEDER! What is going on here?
[img]

Then I started looking around the rear of the vehicle and noticed a very large item laying on the deck. What the h@%l is that? If it had been a rattlesnake, it could have bitten me before I noticed it was there. Odd item number two is a gun cradle for a M139 20mm auto cannon. What is that here?
[img][/img]

Data Plate, notice it has E1 stamped into it. At the time I was inside, I didn't see that. I only saw it once I downloaded the photo to my PC.
[img]

"E1!" This vehicle started service as a M114A0, at some point it was upgrade with a XM27 powered turret and a M139 20 mm auto cannon. Both the M114A0s and the M114A1s had "E1" stamped into their data plates when they received that major upgrade. This vehicle ended it's service as a M114A2, most likly losted it's XM27 turret to the M113 TUA or M113 FIST program. Who ever did that job, layed the gun cradle inside the hull. Somewhere, somehow, someone put a split TC hatch turret on this old girl.

Updated spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum