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The Sherman Serial Numbers database
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http://the.shadock.free.fr/Sherman_SN.xls

hello,

As I'm not currently very busy, I like to do unuseful things... Mr. Green

So, here is a document gathering all the Sherman + variants Serial Numbers that I was able to find. This document indicates the SN, model and location.
The list summarizes the information provided in various documents :
The USA, Canada, Belgium, and France AFVs registers, the website
www.afvregister.org, Hanno Spoelstra's "Table of known serial numbers".

This document shows few SNs which are obviously wrong or incomplete, but it also shows interesting SN sequencies.

Any feedback, correction and/or addition is the most welcome.

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Another Yuma, AZ M4; sn: 44518
This M4 is located at the Sunset Vista Cemetery on E 40th St.

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P-O,
Great initiative!

A few observations:
1) I would suggest adding a column for Canadian Shop Numbers.
2) I would suggest adding a column for other registration numbers - such as British War Department T-numbers, Canadian CT-numbers, French RNs, etc.
3) I would suggest including Shermans you have RNs, but not SNs, for - since these usually can be matched up to SNs anyway...
4) Additions, New Info, etc:

M4A3E8 Sherman Easy Eight SN 137 is RN 30160112

M4A1(75) Sherman SN 192 is RN 3014948

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 768 (“Cosmos 41”) is at VMMV in Nokesville, VA

M4A3 Sherman SN 1158, RN 3053673 is in Freeport, IL

M4A3E9 Sherman SN 1250, RN 3054205 is in Hampshire, IL

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 2938 is RN 3055898

M4A1 Sherman Grizzly SN 3305; ex-Portuguese Army; U.S. Army Center for Military History Storage Facility, Anniston Army Depot, AL

M4A1(75) Sherman Calliope SN 7320, RN 3058832 is now in storage at Fort Lee, VA

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 11603 is RN 3053758

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 11693 is in Gooding, ID (not IA)

M4A3 Sherman SN 11743 is RN 3053898

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 11762 is RN 3053917

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 12081, RN 3054236 is at Odd Fellows Cemetery in Blanchester, OH

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 12236 is RN 3054391

M4A3E9 Sherman SN 12298 is at Sam Winer Motors, Akron, OH

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 12302 is in Blackfoot, ID (not IA)

SN 12381 is an M4A3(75)

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 12422 is in Homedale, ID (not IA)

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 12453 is in Pocatello, ID (not IA)

M4A3E9 Sherman SN 12458 is in Walbridge, OH (not Toledo)

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 12465 is at the Ohio Army National Guard Armory in Eaton, OH

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 12479 is at the Ohio Army National Guard Armory in Cleveland, OH

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 12501 is RN 308011

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 12558 is in Larimore, ND

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 12593 is in Emmett, ID (not IA)

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 12660 is in Rupert, ID (not IA)

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 12758 is in Twin Falls, ID (not IA)

M4A3 Sherman SN 13803 is RN 3055958

M50 Super Sherman SN 17091 is at Cavanaugh Flight Museum in Addison, TX

M4A3(105) Sherman SN 17837 is in Forest City, IA (not IO)

M4A4 Sherman Experimental HVSS SN 19617 is RN 3019223 and is now in storage at Fort Lee, VA

M4A2(75) Sherman SN 25054 is RN 3033584

SN 52499 is either an M4A1(76) OR an M4A1E8 at Fort Lewis - not certain which one it is...

M4(105) Sherman SN 58235 is RN 30105007

M4A3E8 Sherman Easy Eight SN 59894 is RN 3031757

M4A3E8 Sherman SN 59964 is RN 3031827

M4A3E8 Sherman SN 60110 is RN 3031973

M4A3E8 Sherman Easy Eight SN 60633 is RN 30113655

M4A3E8 Sherman Easy Eight SN 61059 is RN 30114081

M4A3E8 Sherman Easy Eight SN 61203 is RN 30114225

M4A3E8 Sherman Easy Eight SN 61438 is RN 30114460

M4A3E8 Sherman Easy Eight SN 61587 is RN 30114609

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 62113 is RN 30115135

M4A3E8 Sherman Easy Eight SN 63284 is in Kearney, NE (not MO)

M4A3E8 Sherman Easy Eight SN 63350, “Barfly” is now at the 4th Infantry Division Museum, Fort Carson, COL and has RN 30116372.

M4A3E8 Sherman Easy Eight SN 65957; “Thunderbolt VII” is at Post Exchange, Gold Vault Rd, Fort Knox, KY

M4A3E8 Sherman Easy Eight SN 65997; formerly at Abrams Center, Fort Knox is currently unknown location...

M4A1E8 Sherman SN 68148 is in Evansville, IA (not IO)

M4A1 Sherman SN 68264 is RN 30161945

M4A1E8 Sherman Easy Eight SN 68827 is RN 30126806 (Used by the French army and carried the name “Niederbronn II” (probably in honor of a WWII Sherman of the same name). Was later used as a monument in Bad Kissingen by the 14th Armored Cavalry Regiment and 1st Squadron, 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment. Arrived at APG c1/2006,).

M4A1E8 Sherman Easy Eight SN 68928 is now owned by C Reed Knight in Titusville, FL

M4A2E8 Sherman Easy Eight SN 69357 is RN 30129836

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 71697 is “Liberty”

M4A1(75) Sherman Missing gun & mantlet; RN 3036975; Museum Storage Lot, Veterans Memorial Museum, Huntsville, AL

CWS-POA-H5 Sherman RN 3058832 is at the US Army Chemical Corps Museum, Fort Leonard Wood, MO

M4A1(75) Grizzly Shop No. 93; “Cindy” is at Richardson Motor Pool, Fort Knox, KY

I believe Kurt Laughlin or Joe DeMarco should be able to confirm the SN/RN matchups...

Neil
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:47 am
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BB-61,
Thanks for the info!

Two things would appreciate if you could confirm in Yuma:
1) Is there an M60A1 at VFW Post 8242, 7120 Hwy S 95? If so pictures, the SN, RN would be great!
2) The Crusader self-propelled howitzer and re-supply vehicle prototypes supposedly in storage at YPG? Perhaps the exhibit/historical office folks would know? Obviously only looking for info/pics from public areas of the post, not anywhere else...

Neil
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:48 am
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- Neil_Baumgardner
P-O,
Great initiative!

A few observations:
1) I would suggest adding a column for Canadian Shop Numbers.
These Canadian AFVs should be listed in a separated sheet, IMO.
2) I would suggest adding a column for other registration numbers - such as British War Department T-numbers, Canadian CT-numbers, French RNs, etc.
This is a great idea
3) I would suggest including Shermans you have RNs, but not SNs, for - since these usually can be matched up to SNs anyway...
Well, as the RN is always suspect (because it is painted), I would not. The SN is the only information that is 100% sure and doesn't need to be confirmed, except when it is difficult to read, of course

I believe Kurt Laughlin or Joe DeMarco should be able to confirm the SN/RN matchups...
I already asked them for some help with SN/RN matchups, and also to know the manufacturer from the SN. This would be really great to get such informaton from them.

Neil

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:59 am
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BB-61

May I use your pictures at the Afv Register, credit to you will be added.
BTW its a M4 Composite, a rare type in th US.

Michel
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[quote="the_shadock"]
- Neil_Baumgardner
P-O,
Great initiative!

A few observations:
1) I would suggest adding a column for Canadian Shop Numbers.
These Canadian AFVs should be listed in a separated sheet, IMO.
2) I would suggest adding a column for other registration numbers - such as British War Department T-numbers, Canadian CT-numbers, French RNs, etc.
This is a great idea
3) I would suggest including Shermans you have RNs, but not SNs, for - since these usually can be matched up to SNs anyway...
Well, as the RN is always suspect (because it is painted), I would not. The SN is the only information that is 100% sure and doesn't need to be confirmed, except when it is difficult to read, of course


But in some cases we know the RN from documentation (but not the SN), not from what is painted... Plus, as I said, Kurt & Joe should be able to help with the SN/RN correlations.

Neil
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:23 pm
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P-O

The RN for our Priest is 40172553 (Verified by Joe deMarco)
The SN for the M7B1/2 (its a B2 but currently beeing rebuild to B1) is 4376 with RN 40152839 (also confirmed by Joe)

Michel
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P-O,
Do you have any more details (locations) for the UK range targets you have identified?

Neil
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P-O

Checking the list
SN 836 has the same RN as SN 811, further I can't find it anywhere in Larimore, ND.

Michel
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Michel,
Its at N47 54.646 W97 37.442

Here's a pic & info:



s698.photobucket.com/a...NDM4A3.jpg

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Neil

Thats the M4A3 SN 12558, but I'm refering to SN 836 (M4(75)) thats on P-O's list.

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P-O

Checking the list
SN 836 has the same RN as SN 811, further I can't find it anywhere in Larimore, ND.

Michel


the corrected version is now online>.

- Neil_Baumgardner
P-O,
Do you have any more details (locations) for the UK range targets you have identified?

Neil


they come from there :
http://web.inter.nl.net/users/spoelstra/g104/ser-tab.htm

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:45 am
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Those range target details on Hannos site came from me. I have pictures of them but many of them are probably gone for scrap now.

I'll go through them and update the info.

Adrian
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Adrian,
I am mostly interested in which SN is/was at which target range. Do you have that info?

Thanks,

Neil
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