±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 270
Total: 270
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: News
02: Home
03: Photo Gallery
04: Home
05: Community Forums
06: Downloads
07: Home
08: Community Forums
09: Home
10: Home
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Home
14: Community Forums
15: Home
16: Home
17: Home
18: Community Forums
19: Home
20: Community Forums
21: Home
22: Community Forums
23: News
24: Photo Gallery
25: Home
26: Photo Gallery
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Photo Gallery
30: Community Forums
31: Home
32: Home
33: Member Screenshots
34: Community Forums
35: Community Forums
36: Home
37: Community Forums
38: Home
39: Photo Gallery
40: Downloads
41: Home
42: Community Forums
43: Home
44: Community Forums
45: Home
46: Home
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Home
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: News
53: Home
54: Community Forums
55: Downloads
56: Member Screenshots
57: Home
58: Member Screenshots
59: Community Forums
60: Home
61: Member Screenshots
62: Home
63: Home
64: Home
65: Home
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Home
70: Home
71: Home
72: Home
73: Home
74: Community Forums
75: Member Screenshots
76: Your Account
77: Downloads
78: Home
79: Home
80: News Archive
81: Community Forums
82: Your Account
83: Home
84: Community Forums
85: Home
86: Member Screenshots
87: Home
88: Photo Gallery
89: Community Forums
90: Downloads
91: Home
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Home
96: Home
97: Community Forums
98: Downloads
99: Home
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Home
103: Downloads
104: Home
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Home
112: Community Forums
113: Home
114: Community Forums
115: Home
116: Community Forums
117: LinkToUs
118: Home
119: Home
120: Downloads
121: News Archive
122: Home
123: Community Forums
124: Home
125: Member Screenshots
126: Home
127: Community Forums
128: Home
129: Home
130: Downloads
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Home
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Home
139: Home
140: Home
141: Community Forums
142: Home
143: Community Forums
144: Photo Gallery
145: Community Forums
146: Home
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Home
152: Community Forums
153: Home
154: Home
155: Home
156: Community Forums
157: Home
158: Community Forums
159: Downloads
160: Home
161: Community Forums
162: Home
163: Downloads
164: Photo Gallery
165: Community Forums
166: Photo Gallery
167: Home
168: Home
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Home
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Home
175: Home
176: Home
177: Community Forums
178: Home
179: Community Forums
180: Member Screenshots
181: Community Forums
182: Downloads
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Home
186: Community Forums
187: Home
188: Community Forums
189: Home
190: Home
191: Home
192: Photo Gallery
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: LinkToUs
196: Community Forums
197: Home
198: Home
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Home
202: News Archive
203: Home
204: Community Forums
205: Home
206: Home
207: Home
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Home
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Downloads
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Home
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Home
224: News
225: Home
226: Home
227: Community Forums
228: Home
229: Community Forums
230: Home
231: Community Forums
232: Downloads
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Home
236: Community Forums
237: Home
238: News Archive
239: Downloads
240: Home
241: Home
242: Home
243: Community Forums
244: Home
245: Home
246: Downloads
247: Home
248: Home
249: Home
250: Photo Gallery
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Photo Gallery
254: Community Forums
255: Home
256: Home
257: Home
258: Home
259: Home
260: Home
261: Community Forums
262: Home
263: Home
264: Photo Gallery
265: Community Forums
266: Home
267: Community Forums
268: Home
269: Community Forums
270: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Something new at Ft Bliss Texas 2. It's a LINGLE!!!!!!!!!!!
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:31 am
Post subject: Something new at Ft Bliss Texas 2. It's a LINGLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Folks!
Sorry about that title.
[img][/img]
[img][/img]
[img][/img]
[img][/img]
[img][/img]
The number looks like 2363 on the left side. The number on the right side is stamped twice. The high number is 236 with a 3 stamped over the 6. Low stamping is 2363, the same as the left side. Serial Number????
[img][/img]

My first love has returned to Ft. Bliss. She not an A2, but an A0 is better that no Lingle at all.
Spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:37 pm
Post subject: Re: Something new at Ft Bliss Texas 2. It's a LINGLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmmm.... Same vehicle?

www.primeportal.net/ap...ueck/m114/

The Bliss one seems to be a good bit more scratched up/paint flaked off on the front...

Unfortunately we have determined that the numbers stamped below the tow lugs are not the SNs... The "Lingle" is apparently the one (?) US vehicle that doesnt have the SN stamped on the outside somewhere...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Something new at Ft Bliss Texas 2. It's a LINGLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Neil! Hi Fokls!

I think you are correct. (Update: Check out the right front headlight guard. Both vehicles have the same damage!) Looking at the headlight groups on both sides, both vehicles have the same items missing. I tried to move the surfboard base, it is rusted in place.

I remember back before I drop out off the internet for a few years we all had figured out that the M114 didn't have exterier SN numbers. I was thinking that passed reports had listed different numbers on the two sides. I was very surpised to see the same number on each side. I was just wondering if any thing had changed while I was lost.

Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:11 am
Post subject: Re: Something new at Ft Bliss Texas 2. It's a LINGLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Folks!

Update on that M114.
The serial number is 2374 and May 1964 is stamped into data plate at the bottom right corner. The RN looks like it was 2AH88. That doesn't line up with any RN's that I can seen in any of the photos that where taken of vehicles in service. That number was painted on the side hull, then repainted over the first one, a bit higher and a little forward of the first one, before both of those layers where painted over with third layer of OD paint.

Last Sunday I was able to open the driver's hatch and climb down inside. I think I am getting a bit to old to be climbing around inside a Lingle!

This old Lingle is not what she seams to be when looking at the outside of her. The first odd thing I noticed was the storage marking on the right wall below that cannon plug. What does that say? Spare feeder? What spare feeder? The M114A0 had a flex mounted M2 HB 50 Cal MG, no need for a spare feeder. The M114A1 had a cradle mounted M2 HB TT 50 Cal MG, again no need for a spare feeder. WAIT A MINUTE! The M114A2 mounted a M139 20mm auto cannon! IT USED A FEEDER! What is going on here?
[img]

Then I started looking around the rear of the vehicle and noticed a very large item laying on the deck. What the h@%l is that? If it had been a rattlesnake, it could have bitten me before I noticed it was there. Odd item number two is a gun cradle for a M139 20mm auto cannon. What is that here?
[img][/img]

Data Plate, notice it has E1 stamped into it. At the time I was inside, I didn't see that. I only saw it once I downloaded the photo to my PC.
[img]

"E1!" This vehicle started service as a M114A0, at some point it was upgrade with a XM27 powered turret and a M139 20 mm auto cannon. Both the M114A0s and the M114A1s had "E1" stamped into their data plates when they received that major upgrade. This vehicle ended it's service as a M114A2, most likly losted it's XM27 turret to the M113 TUA or M113 FIST program. Who ever did that job, layed the gun cradle inside the hull. Somewhere, somehow, someone put a split TC hatch turret on this old girl.

Updated spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum