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Do you show an M59A1 APC at Russell Military Museum?

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No, I wasnt. Do you have a picture?

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Look here:

www.flickr.com/photos/...947671614/

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Pretty certain thats the T117.

www.flickr.com/photos/...564604012/

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Pretty certain thats the T117.

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I think its the T59 - Large vertical front plate & both hatches are at the front with engine behind - one of these vehicles was possibly reworked into the T117 with the commanders hatch behind the engine.

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I remember we discussed this one before. Pretty interesting. May have to e-mail the museum. Razz

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E-mail sent..... Smile

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Hmm... We specifically identified it by the smaller towing lugs...

com-central.net/index....light=t117

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I heard back from the museum. They said it was "M113 serial number 3 and made of steel". I thanked him and said it was possible it was originally T117.

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It's clearly not an M113. A "steel" M113 is by definition a T117 (M113 was aluminum). See Hunnicutt's Bradley, page 78 & 80. But SN 3 is helpful!

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I'd sure like to get a look at the data plate inside

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Hmmm.....

FMC working in conjunction with the Kaiser Aluminium and Chemical Corporation, constructed the T113 with an aluminium hull and a Continental air-cooled engine. These two combined together provided the lightest weight configuration and afforded the vehicle with a superior ballistic capability. At the same time a conventional steel hull vehicle was built, powered by a water-cooled Packard engine. This particular APC was derived from the earlier M59 and was built because it represented a low risk option.

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I'd still like to see an image of the top of it - anyone going that way?

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That would be interesting, Jim. Since it was single engine it wouldn't have been on the sides like the M59. Confused

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