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Found a "new" M46 Patton: Beech Creek, PA
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Tom Dinackus brought this to my attention.



www.pngmilitarymuseum....inton.html

Beech Creek appears to be sufficiently far from Etters so as not to be a double-listing of the M46 that used to be at the latter.

That makes 8 known survivors in the US now.

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Man,

I wish I could see a picture of the front. There is an unusual bracket on the gun mantle. Wondering if it's part of an old searchlight kit. Doesn't look familiar though.

Nice find.

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I wish I could see a picture of the front. There is an unusual bracket on the gun mantle. Wondering if it's part of an old searchlight kit. Doesn't look familiar though.


Pah! I wish you hadn't pointed that out - now I'm going to have to spend the next week trying to find out all about it Sad

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Hmm... Now I wonder if it is the same tank...

www.pngmilitarymuseum....hase3.html





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Or they came from the same National Guard unit and had had the same mods applied.Since both tanks appear on the PA NG site I would think they would have removed the old entry if it had moved. Looking at the paint job if they are the same tank then the Etters picture must be several years old (It takes a long time for paint to age that much :-))

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The restored one is the Etters tank:

www.pngmilitarymuseum....hase1.html

It had ASF-C turret S/N 740 if anyone visits. Where is it?

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As far as I can tell, its at Fort Indiantown Gap.

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Bob,

To my knowledge the National Guard/ reserve never received M46's. Most stayed in Korea and then became hard targets. There's a reason there's so few of them left in the world. The ones in America are former test subjects or maintenance/school house vehicles. Which brings me to this:

Just for you Jim,

[img]http://com-central.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10605/untitled%7E3.jpg[/img]

Looks like this tank was used to test the "Leaflet II" IR search light system. To my knowledge, this IR system was never fielded. The 18" white light models were all that were used. Those were mounted directly above the gun on the mantle. This version blocks the gunner's telescope view but doesn't the periscope, which is where the IR sight would be mounted. Something that is fine for test operations but you would not do in the field. I'm pretty sure this tank is the same as the test vehicle, since an issued IR system didn't come about until the M60 was first fielded, and that was long after the M46 was removed from service. I'd love to know where this tank came from.

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NIce find...

You got a bigger version of that image Joe?

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Jim,

I wish I did, but that's the best I can do. The picture should be in the Red Davis library at the Patton museum. Maybe Dontos can find it. It is also in Honeycutts "Patton".

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Two questions:
1)Where is this M46 Patton
2)It is the M46 that was previously at Etters, PA (USA)

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Two questions:
1)Where is this M46 Patton


As far as I can tell, its at Fort Indiantown Gap.


2)It is the M46 that was previously at Etters, PA (USA)


Yes

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The Etters/FIG M46 is different from the Beech Creek M46. Both have the bracket over the gunner's telescope. so there were at two, whatever it was.

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