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WimD. · Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

Hello Michel,

Yes, both Panther are from the WTS Koblenz.

Some more pictures I took.

Regards,
Wim.

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

Thank Wim,

another Panther and it is an BergePanther
I'm all happy now

I found something completly different today
Some Russian T-34/85's and an nice museum

thanks P-O Wink

Because of your question about the German halftrack I did some research on the Modellbauforen.de site and they have some nice things

The Technikverein Pütnitz, they have an museum with an lot of former East-German army equipment

www.modellbauforen.de/...=4;t=15937

They also have there own website
www.technikverein-puet...tseite.htm

If some-one wants to few the collection at that site, pick:
Ausstellung => Uberblick => then on the picture choose one of the numbers (1-6)
There will appear thumbnail picture's of the vehicle's

Found so far:
T-72 MBT
T-55A MBT
T-34/85
ZSU 23-4 Schilka
122mm SPH 2S1
152mm SPH 2S3M
BTR-60PB
BTR-152
PT-76 ligth tank
BRDM-2
and there more military stuff there, like Russian trucks

Michel

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

I did find another site of the Technikverein Pütnitz

www.flickr.com/photos/...335676489/

and there are more vehicle´s
- MT-55 bridgelayer
- and it looks like there are two 9P113 (FROG-7) I think Confused

www.isb-fischland-dars...itz5gr.jpg

Michel

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

Maybe Putnitz is better known as Ribnitz-Damgarten airbase of the Soviet/Russian air force. Last type operating here were MiG-29s. Interesting times!

bialy-r · Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

Militärhistorischen und Technischen Museum, Eggesin :

T-72A1
T-55AM2
T-34/85
ZSU 23-4 Schilka
122mm SPH 2S1
152mm SPH 2S3M
BTR-60PB
BTR-70
BTR-152
BWP-1
BWP-2
BRDM-2
BLG60

www.panoramio.com/user...%20Army%29

bialy-r · Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:49 am Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

Militärverein Torgau, Torgau:

BA-64
BTR-152 W1
BRDM-2
BTR-60PA
MT-LB
T-55AM2(P)
T-72M
Pz 68/88

www.militaerverein.de/...erein.html

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

So more to at to the list:

Museum Militär- und Zeitgeschichte, Stammheim
www.museum-stammheim.de/index.htm

They have an airdefence Gepard (2x 30mm turret on to Leopard 1 chassis)
picture here:
waffenhq.fireline-netw...=sb&mid=11

Another one:
Rottauer Museum für Fahrzeuge, Wehrtechnik und Zeitgeschichte
rottauer-museum.de/ind...&Itemid=37

they have an
M47 Patton
however the vehicle's there are used in various movies so, there have to be more

Also organizes this museum every year an big military vehicle event and found so far:
Jagdpanzer kanone (number 121 on the side)
HS 30 Schutzenpanzer (APC)

Michel

bialy-r · Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

Technikmuseum Kummersdorf:

BMP-1
BTR-60
BTR-60 PB
Luchs
MT-LB
D-944 PSzH
Schützenpanzer SPz 11-2 Kurz

www.technikmuseum-kumm...chnik.html

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

Militärhistorischen und Technischen Museum, Eggesin :

Eggesin/Karpin
(former) Artillery barracks
Source: www.hartziel.de

regards,
Lesley

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

Found a picture of a Leopard 1 at the RAF museum Cosford.

R/n is Y-343156

farm4.static.flickr.co...1233061878

Regards,
Lesley

armyjunk2 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Sep 22, 2006 Posts: 1416

Michel Might want to think about the jagdtiger name as its already a tankwebsite www.jagdtiger.de/index2.htm i don't know if this has already been addressed

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:30 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

Michel Might want to think about the jagdtiger name as its already a tankwebsite

I'm not planning to build an website so there is no problem with the name

The list is will be similair named like the others, "Germany AFV Register" or Deutschland Militärfahrzeug Register Wink

Michel

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

Let get back to the collection of various museums, etc

Panzermuseum Munster, already mentioned before however I found an new site with an lot of picture's

Not only from the tanks there, but also the other stuff
Like trucks, cars, munitions, half-tracks, etc

www.bundeswehr-modellb...index.html

If some-one is looking for an picture of an German AFV still in service, let me know
Most of the picture's of vehicle's found is of equipment still in use, so not usable for the register

However nice to have for reference Mr. Green

Michel

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:20 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

Some update from Sinsheim, since I was there during the weekend.
Below is a list of *outdoor* AFVs, the ones indoor will follow soon, but they are mostly well-know.
There are some changes compared to Neil's initial list, but not that many:

M4 turret
M47 turret
M48 turret
Schutzenpanzer SPz 11-2
M24
Leopard 1A1A2
M47
M74 (two vehicles)
M47 (with "T" muzzle brake)
HS 30 Spz Lang
M32
Centurion (ex-swiss)
Pansarbandvagn 301
M59
M4A3 Sherman Firefly
M26 wreck
M47 (with straight muzzle brake)
M26A1
M48
Marder APC
M3A3
M40
EBR Panhard
T-72
BMP-1
T-34/85 (two tanks, another is indoor)
Leopard 1 (three tanks)
Pz 61
T-55
A kind of mortar carrier. Maybe on Marder APC chassis?
Geschutzter Sonderwagen
M48
M7 Priest
M3 Scout Car
BTR-60
Repro of Wespe on Hotchkiss chassis
BTR-152
M42 Duster
SU-100

I have pics, but they mostly show snow Crying or Very sad

For indoor vehicles instead I've managed to take plenty of pictures. I will start posting stuff soon.

Massimo

PS Note to self, next time wait until the snow melt down before travelling to Germany Rolling Eyes

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

A kind of mortar carrier. Maybe on Marder APC chassis?
Geschutzter Sonderwagen

Hi Massimo,

I think to know what vehicle that maybe
The mortar carrier is most likely an Schutzenpanzer (lang) HS 30 Panzermorser
An self propelled mortar version of the German APC HS 30
Initially fitted with an 81 mm mortar and later with a 120mm mortar
You should know it, it is an Swiss Hispano-Suiza (in short HS) design Mr. Green

The "Geschutzter Sonderwagen" is an vehicle of the German Bundesgrenzschutz (literly State Border protection), original an kind of border police force
The vehicle was used for "hard-core" riot's and for road blocks, this police force in now part of the German federal police force

In 1951 they where created to patrol the German borders and they formed the base for the German army and navy
I don't think you could compare this police force with something else in the world

Besides acting as border patrol and federal police
They are there to protect German national interrest around the globe
Protection of German embassies, the national airline Lufthansa, sea ports, act as military police, emergency services, etc Shocked

They could even operate under the UN, European Union or similar

And this is very special, because for the German army they had to change to nation's laws in 1990, before they could be send abroad for NATO

ps: cann't wait to see some picture's

Michel

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