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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:40 am Post subject: Ordnance Museum Updates
Just saw this: "IMPORTANT INFORMATION - DUE TO BUDGET CUTS THE MUSEUM WILL BE CLOSED SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE." www.ordmusfound.org/ Neil Last edited by Neil_Baumgardner on Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:18 pm; edited 2 times in total

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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:31 am Post subject: Re: Ordnance Museum now Closed on Weekends...
Yeah, that makes much more sense than closing on, say...Mondays and Tuesdays. _________________ "All facts go to clearly prove that Shades is a thrice-cursed traitor & mentally deranged person steeped in inveterate enmity toward mankind"

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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:22 am Post subject: Re: Ordnance Museum now Closed on Weekends...
Well if you believe their mission is to support the Ordnance School and it's training program it makes sense. After all that is whole reason for the move to Ft Lee _________________ Bob Smart ([email protected])

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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:28 am Post subject: Re: Ordnance Museum now Closed on Weekends...
"The Ordnance Museum Foundation, Inc. is a not-for-profit organization dedicated to support the U.S. Army Ordnance Corps Museum at Aberdeen Proving Ground." ...conspicuously absent is any reference to Ft. Lee, present or future. _________________ "All facts go to clearly prove that Shades is a thrice-cursed traitor & mentally deranged person steeped in inveterate enmity toward mankind"

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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:42 am
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I will only say that your observation is accurate. If there is a 'friends group' for the musuem at Ft Lee it will (most likely) be a new organization incorporated under Virginia Law and have no direct connection with the current foundation. The last time I had contact with the foundation there were more questions than answers about the status of projects, etc.

I think when folks look back at the history of the Ordnance Museum the current period will be in the running for the darkest days of the museum along with the 'great scrap drive' of the Korean War and the eviction from their longtime home in the 60s

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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:52 am
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- bsmart

I think when folks look back at the history of the Ordnance Museum the current period will be in the running for the darkest days of the museum along with the 'great scrap drive' of the Korean War and the eviction from their longtime home in the 60s

Not much better than Ft. Knox artifacts being displaced downrange as "hard targets" for the betterment of all...and the detriment of history.

Current Army legacy will not be remembered for it's distinguished committment to preserving history.

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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: Ordnance Museum now Closed on Weekends...
is there even any point going there now from an AFV /arty POV? _________________ The only good skwerril is a dead un

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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:40 pm
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I was actually planning a tour in the next month or so. There are some folks who play Flames Of War at the local hobby shop that were interested ( I did a tour for them a couple years ago)

Yea it wouldn't be as good as before they moved some of the collection and when we had access to the warehouse with the cut open T34 but I figured it was worth a trip. For vehicles most of them are outside so are available whether the museum is open or not but small arms etc are all inside

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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:43 pm
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Yeah, I'm wondering whether they will still let you go through the gate to see the outside vehicles on weekends - I would hope so, but...

I agree the Ordnance Museum is facing something of a down point right now. But, I am still hopeful of the future. While I might not like the pending splitting of the collection into two museums, and the temporary inaccessibility of items (at Fort Lee or at APG on weekends), I believe the future Ordnance Museum at Fort Lee could actually be one of the brightest periods in the museum's history - the first facility that houses a majority of the collection since being kicked out of the old museum in the 1960s.

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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Ordnance Museum now Closed on Weekends...
Let me know when your next tour is Bob, History is just repeating it self. Scrap Drive = Korean War Eviction = Vietnam Current mess = Enduring Freedom/ OIF or whatever you want to call it. Focus is elsewhere and is leaving the door wide open for those to screw things up _________________ Joe_D

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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: Ordnance Museum now Closed on Weekends...
- Joe_D Let me know when your next tour is Bob, Like I said before - You let me know when you'll be up here and that will be my next tour. I think you want to try and make it a weekday so we can try and look at the M60 vehicle files _________________ Bob Smart ([email protected])

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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:16 am
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Just saw this:

www.ordmusfound.org/

"IMPORTANT INFORMATION - THE MUSEUM WILL NOW BE OPEN SATURDAYS 900am to 300pm

"The GIFT SHOP WILL ALSO BE OPEN DURING THAT TIME ON SATURDAY

"THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUING SUPPORT OF THE US ARMY ORDNANCE MUSEUM!"

I suspect the "budget issues" weekend closure (which lasted less than 30 days) was due to waiting for the Defense Appropriations Bill to get signed and austerity measures of working under a Continuing Resolution...

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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: Ordnance Museum now Back Open on Saturdays...
Still appears they are not open on Sundays Their staffing has always been so thin that having the one person required as a minimum to open on weekends has sometimes been difficult. _________________ Bob Smart ([email protected])

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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:22 am Post subject: Re: Ordnance Museum now Back Open on Saturdays...
Hi im coming to the US from Australia from the 15 march for 12 days, can anyone give me any information on when the Ordnance Museum is open? Im particuarly interested in viewing the tanks etc outside , is it still possible to visit them if the museum is closed? thanks for any help you can give Dan

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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:01 am Post subject: Re: Ordnance Museum now Back Open on Saturdays...
Dan, Looks like right now its open Monday-Saturday. See www.ordmusfound.org/ for more details. Neil

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