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The Netherlands AFV Registers
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:09 pm
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Hi folks,

thanks for the ID
Will put the vehicle into the Netherlands register with the correct description Wink

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Hi folks,

find something new (again Rolling Eyes )

It is an Bren Carrier located in Eede
That is almost Belgium, however it is on the Dutch side of the Dutch-Belgium border

www.ww2talk.com/forum/...-eede.html

Could some-one confirm that it is an Bren Carrier

Because I have some doubts because of the big steel plate behind the drivers postion

Also does some one know the purpose of this big plate Confused

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Psstwar dutch & belgium T16 carriers had a tilt over the rear compartment but the command ones had that plate at the forward edge of the tilt frame.

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Hi Jim,

thanks for the ID

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:45 pm
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Could some-one confirm that it is an Bren Carrier


Michel,

This is a T16 Universal Carrier (Universal Carriers were often referred to as Bren Carrier).

See a wartime pic of a T16 at Breskens near Eede on my web page universalcarrier.net/t...story.html

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:49 pm
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Psstwar dutch & belgium T16 carriers had a tilt over the rear compartment but the command ones had that plate at the forward edge of the tilt frame.


Jim,

Only the Swiss converted their T16s. The one at Eede is an ex-Swiss T16, as you can see from the antenna mount for example. It also has some of the data plates in German.

Can you tell us more about the Command versions? I have always wondered what that "headboard" was.

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The one at Eede is an ex-Swiss T16


If this is an Swiss T-16 carrier, than this is not an very standard version of it Confused

I searched for some surviving cariers in Swiss musuem and there are at least 2 major differences
- first, the "headboard"
The picture's of the Swiss vehicles I could find have the tilt at the rear, however there is no "headboard" between the drivers position and the rear part of the vehicle

- second, the solid type roadwheels and idler wheels
I can not remember seeing that before, either WW2 or post-war

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The picture's of the Swiss vehicles I could find have the tilt at the rear, however there is no "headboard" between the drivers position and the rear part of the vehicle

I checked some pictures too, and was unable to find the "headboard". But I can't confirm or deny, sorry.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:40 pm
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Indeed I have never seen the headboard before, that is why I was hoping Jim knows more about it.

This is a Swiss T16 Carrier or Pz Begl Fz UC (Panzergrenadier Begleit Fahrzeug Universal Carrier):
commons.wikimedia.org/...arrier.jpg

The dished wheels are a late wartime production feature, but not seen in action during WW2 if I recall correctly.


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This is a Swiss T16 Carrier or Pz Begl Fz UC

That's the one in Thun's panzermuseum. I have a full walkaround of it, feel free to ask if you want to see some specific detail.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:03 pm
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- Massimo_Foti
the one in Thun's panzermuseum


That is one of the two that I also found

The other was at an military collectors event called Swiss Militaryshow 2008

www.swissmilitaryshow....201944.JPG

Both have the tilt, however both do not have the Headboard.... Neutral


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The one in Full has british matkings but, most likely, it's a former swiss army vehicle, it has no headboard. Same for the one in the armeemuseum in Thun (it's a different vehicle than the one in the panzermuseum).

I have a full walkaround of the Full's vehicle too, I can post pics if it could help.

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Hi folks,

small update concerning the Netherlands AFV register

P-O got the first release copy to review on lay-out and stuff like that

If there are no major issues, the idea is to have it online next weekend (6/7-feb)

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will do.

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http://the.shadock.free.fr/Netherlands_AFVs.pdf

The Netherlands AFVs register, 1st edition.
Thanks to Michel Krauss.

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