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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:40 pm Post subject: Anyone in here keeping a list of German or Italian
Anyone in here keeping a list of German or Italian artillery locations?? Before I start one I thought I would ask.....

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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:32 pm
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WimD and I did a small list of German WW2 equipment on the forum

If you need help let me know
Before the big crash I once started with an Artillery register for the Netherlands (Allied, German and modern)
I could recover some of this in the google cache after the crash

For the Netherlands

Best, museum Wings of Liberation
88mm FlaK 37

Deventer, monument
37mm PaK 36
www.ww2museums.com/art...venter.htm

Groesbeek, Liberation museum
75mm Pak 40
www.saak.nl/war%20muse...281%29.jpg

Harskamp, military museum of the Infantry
37mm PaK 36

Hoek van Holland, Atlantic wall museum
75mm PAK 40 (came from the Overloon museum in 2005)
28cm SKC 34 breech, remains of WW2 German 3 gun turret Batterie Rozenburg
The 3 gun turret came from the battleship Gneisenau

Nijmegen, monument
50mm PAK 38
www.ww2museums.com/article/1520

Overloon, museum Overloon
37mm PaK 36
50mm PAK 38 (camouflage)
50mm PAK 38 (green)
75mm Pak 40 (I don't know if it still there, see Hoek van Holland)
75mm Pak 97-38 L36
88mm Flak 37 (panzergrau / panzer grey)
88mm Flak 37 (sand)
88mm Rakettenwerfer Püppchen model 1943
105mm leichte Feldhaubitze leFH 18-40L28
80cm cartridge railway gun Dora

Oosterbeek, Airborne museum Hartenstein
20 mm FlaK 38

Schaarsbergen, museum 40-45
20mm FlAK 30
20 mm FlaK 38
37mm PaK 36
50mm PAK 38
75mm Pak 40
75mm PaK 37 aka 75mm IG 37

Soesterberg, will be part of the new museum
88mm Flak 37

Susteren, monument
88mm PaK 43/41 “Scheuntör”

Valkenburg aan de Geul, monument
75mm Pak 40
www.ww2museums.com/article/187

Zandoerle, monument
75mm Pak 40
www.ww2museums.com/article/870

Michel

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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:38 am Post subject: Re: Anyone in here keeping a list of German or Italian
That would be really a monumental task. I would not be surprised if over 200 locations would emerge from Italy alone. I could help with some locations, pictures and link for Italy. Do you have a starting list? Massimo

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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:40 am Post subject: Re: Anyone in here keeping a list of German or Italian
I have a good list of japanese artilley. Just wondering if anyone had started the others.

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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:36 am Post subject: Re: Anyone in here keeping a list of German or Italian
Is your list available o the web? Massimo

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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:29 pm
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There is a major point to consider: how about captured guns? The italian army after WW I and during WW II used plenty of former austro-hungarian guns. At first the italian industry just repaired them, at one point they started producing those guns from scratch. Should we considered those gun italians?

The last updated 100mm guns, rechambered for 105mm were still in active service in the seventhies. See:
www.com-central.net/in...ic&t=11453

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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:07 pm
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I have a good list of japanese artilley

Did some one just say japanese artillery
There are some guns at the Overloon museum

1 is an AA-gun 75mm, the other is an 150mm howitzer

Will have to check when I get home, to know the good description

Concerning the captured guns, this could be difficult
I know at least 2 Belgium AT-guns that where captured and used in the German army during WW2
If I'm correct there is more, including an Skoda artillery piece and 2 French Schneider guns at the Overloon museum
There is also an French Schneider gun somewhere as monument

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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone in here keeping a list of German or Italian
The case of the austro-hungarian guns goes beyond the typical captured guns. They styed in service for more than 30 years after their capture, and many were rebuild or produced from scratch in Italy. If you see a 100/17 or 75/13 most of the tmes you can't tell if it was manufactured by Skoda or an italian factory/arsenal. Massimo

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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone in here keeping a list of German or Italian
Massimo, I have the Japanese list on a Access data base

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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone in here keeping a list of German or Italian
Access is fine for me but, more in general, I think if you make it available on the web more people would be aware of it and willing to contribute Massimo

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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:49 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone in here keeping a list of German or Italian
To get back on with the Japanese guns at Overloon first one: Osaka Arsenal Type 4 150mm howitzer second one: Type 3 76 mm naval type high angle AA Gun Michel _________________ I'm Not Crazy, I'm Just Not You

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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone in here keeping a list of German or Italian
Hello everyone, problem number 1 is I have no idea how to post the Japanese list, it has 395 items with photos. problem number 2 is I'm not very computer literate. Michel, thank you for posting pics The Type 4 above is on the travel carriage, notice no recoil system. The Type 3 might well be the only one left...

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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone in here keeping a list of German or Italian
Hello everyone, problem number 1 is I have no idea how to post the Japanese list, it has 395 items with photos How large is the file? Massimo

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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:02 pm
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The Type 3 might well be the only one left

Another reason to go to Overloon this year Mr. Green

Do not ask how these got here in the Netherlands, I have no idea
There is only an short description of the gun on the sign next to it

Concerning the 76mm, it actually an 76.2mm
However the dot give's some problems in some programms

There is also one at the Yasukuni Shrine in Japan
Most likely the person who put it there had the same problem as I did, because the description is 80mm Laughing

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._mm_AA_Gun

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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:04 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone in here keeping a list of German or Italian
Hi, Burdinne, Belgium, two Pak's 40. Regards, Wim.

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