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the_shadock · Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

These are my personal Sinsheim outdoor pics :

http://news.webshots.com/album/557416413xGpCqt?start=48

I took these pictures in April 2008, once the snow was completely away Mr. Green

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P-O

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

These are my personal Sinsheim outdoor pics :

news.webshots.com/albu...t?start=48

I took these pictures in April 2008, once the snow was completely away

Thanks for the link, however I think I will wait untill you switched it to Flickr Twisted Evil

Saves my from creating the links twice Wink

Michel

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

I took these pictures in April 2008, once the snow was completely away

Looking at the Panther's PDF looks like you were there in February 2007 as well. So I guess you met some snow too, right?

Massimo

the_shadock · Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:41 am Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

- Massimo_Foti

I took these pictures in April 2008, once the snow was completely away

Looking at the Panther's PDF looks like you were there in February 2007 as well. So I guess you met some snow too, right?

Massimo

yes I was there in February 2007.. and not in April 2008. I'm probably mixing this visit up with another one, somewhere else..

sorry

P-O

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:17 am Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

yes I was there in February 2007.. and not in April 2008

So you've got no snow in February and I've got plenty instead... That's not fair Crying or Very sad

Massimo

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:31 am Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

Here is a list of AFV stored indoor:

Chennilette Renault UE
LTL-H (aka Pz 39). Disguised as Pz 38(t)
G-13 (two tanks, both with gasoline engine. One without muzzlebrake)
M4A1 (76) Sherman
M4A1 (75) Dozer "Valmy" (no blade)
M29 Weasel (two vehicles, one with american the oher with soviet insigna)
M41
Ferret (two vehicles)
Universal Carrier
Hummel
Mobelwagen
PzJg 38(t) Marder III Ausf H
PzJg V Jagdpanther
PzKpfw III Ausf N
PzKpfw IV ausf. J
PzKpfw V Panther A
PzKpfw V Panther A wreck
StuG III
StuH III
T-34/85

I have pics of all of them. I will post a few in the following days/weeks. Feel free to ask if you are looking for anything special

Massimo

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

Because we are discussing Panther tanks now Wink

Who has any information about the Flick military vehicle collection in Germany

There is an lot of different info about everything from this collection
Ranging from biggest private AFV collection in the world to just an single Panther ausf A tank

To only thing that will be right, sofar:
- private collection, not open for public
- in the collection an Panther ausf A (confirmed in 2004)
- there is an large private collection of modern art Mr. Green

Everything else, urban legend Confused

I found different stuff on forum's about this collections stating that there would be:
Pz III, Pz IV, Panther A (from an British scrapyard), Panther G (with steel road wheels on last wheel station), Sherman tank, every type of German WW2 AFV represented, etc

Who know's more Confused

Michel

the_shadock · Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

- Michel_Krauss

- private collection, not open for public
- in the collection an Panther ausf A (confirmed in 2004)
- there is an large private collection of modern art

- private collection, not open for public that's confirmed. I would also add that it is open to very very few people..
- in the collection an Panther ausf A (confirmed in 2004) that was confirmed in 2009 by a guy who personally knows Herr Flick (that means that the tank was still owned by Herr Flick in 2009). He did take a few photos of the tank, but I'm not allowed to show them to you. The owner don't want them to be publicly released.
- there is an large private collection of modern art Mr. Green

don't know anything about this fact

Pierre-Olivier

the_shadock · Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

- Massimo_Foti

Here is a list of AFV stored indoor:

M4A1 (75) Dozer "Valmy" (no blade)
PzJg V Jagdpanther

I have pics of all of them. I will post a few in the following days/weeks. Feel free to ask if you are looking for anything special

Massimo

Massimo,

the pictures I have of the Sherman M4A1(75) Dozer "Valmy" and of the Jagdpanther are not very good. Do you have better photos of them?

For the Sherman dozer, I had some light problems, because it was displayed in a part of the museum that is not very well lightened.
For the Jagdpanther, you did see that it can't be easily approached, and the pictures I have are blurred, because of the distance..

thanks

Pierre-Olivier

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

The Jagdpanther is hidden in the middle of the diorama. Things are much better for the Sherman Dozer. I'll post what I have soon.

Massimo

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

Here you can see two selections:

www.com-central.net/in...7745#87745

www.com-central.net/in...7743#87743

Massimo

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

So the mistery remains about the Flick collection Wink

Concerning the art collection, it is going an little of topic
However it is the only collection that can actually be found in combination with the Flick family

It is one of the biggest privately owned collections in the world, big part of it is on loan in an Berlin Museum

Let get back to the original topic: German AFV register Cool

Michel

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

I forgot to add an M3 half track outdoor Rolling Eyes

Massimo

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

The mortar carrier is most likely an Schutzenpanzer (lang) HS 30 Panzermorser

I can now confirm this. Thanks for the help

Massimo

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

Your welcome Wink

And I did not even see an picture of it

Could some one help me out with list from Massimo, concerning the users of the various tanks Confused

And I do not mean the obvious one's of course

For example the various M4 Sherman, the German army did not use them
To my knowledge they started after WW2 with the M48, perhaps the M47

So they could be American, British or French

Michel

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