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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:47 am
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Hello to all
I'm new here and I have allready a question
Hope someone can help
In 2001 I took a picture of a Sherman tank at the Arnhem 40-45 Museum. See here foto-uploaden.nl/zie/j83ydy6
Can Anyone tell me where this Sherman is today ?
I heard a story that it could be in England with Kevin Wheatcroft.

Walter

I visited the Arnhem 40-45 museum in 2008, and didn't see this M4A1E8..

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:05 am Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
Hi Pierre-Olivier That's correct. The Sherman disappeared short after 2001. At that time the Sherman and the T-34 where standing beside the museum ,with the guns pointed to the road. And the neighbour living opposite was a Doctor who protested that the tanks were illegely there. So they moved the T-34 in front of the building and the Sherman was sold. That was in the newspaper back then. Walter

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:58 pm
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- Walter

Hello to all
I'm new here and I have allready a question
Hope someone can help
In 2001 I took a picture of a Sherman tank at the Arnhem 40-45 Museum. See here foto-uploaden.nl/zie/j83ydy6
Can Anyone tell me where this Sherman is today ?
I heard a story that it could be in England with Kevin Wheatcroft.

Hi Walter,

good to have another Dutchmen around Cool

Correct this Sherman has been sold to the UK
However I cann't tell you when this was, or to who it has been sold

I tried to find it on Trevor's AFV register ( www.afvregister.org ) in the UK, however I could not find it.
Perhaps Lesley will know, he's the one who told me that this Sherman was sold to the UK

How are they doing at the msueum with the restoration of the other Sherman and the Staghound?
When I visited the place in 2008 the hull of both where painted in red primer
The remaining parts where scattered around the place

Michel

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:07 pm
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- Walter

Can Anyone tell me where this Sherman is today ?
I heard a story that it could be in England with Kevin Wheatcroft.

Walter

Well,

Kevin Wheatcroft owns an (apparently) running M4A1E8. The beast was clearly recently repainted, and maybe restored (it is not known if the tank was already running when Kevin bought it).

It's hard to tell if Arnhem's M4A1E8 was bought by Kevin Wheatcroft, then repaired and repainted, but it is not impossible.

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
I got the info that it was sold to the UK from the newspaper Regards, Lesley

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
Hi Michel I couldn't find it also on the Wheatcroft site Work at the museum in Arnhem isn't going very fast .I was there last week and didn't see any progress on the hulls Thanks to Massimo I know that it is a Staghound ,I didn't know that. You van see the pics here foto-uploaden.nl/zie/h2erc3w and foto-uploaden.nl/zie/pevr44x Walter

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
Thanks to Massimo I know that it is a Staghound Yes, you can consider me guilty for having another dutch guy on board Nice to see you here Walter Massimo

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
Hi Walter, thanks for the picture's From the look's of it, there has been no progress in the last 18 month's or so Except that the huls are starting to turn green - Massimo_Foti Yes, you can consider me guilty for having another dutch guy on board Michel _________________ I'm Not Crazy, I'm Just Not You

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:49 pm
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- Michel_Krauss

Correct this Sherman has been sold to the UK
However I cann't tell you when this was, or to who it has been sold

I tried to find it on Trevor's AFV register ( www.afvregister.org ) in the UK, however I could not find it.

That's Tichenor's site - for vehicles in the UK my link would be:

Preserved Tanks in Britain

but I'm not familiar with this tank so I can't add anything to this discussion.

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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
That's Tichenor's site Sorry mixed them up Michel _________________ I'm Not Crazy, I'm Just Not You

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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:02 am Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
Two ex-swiss Centurion were sold to people in the Netherlands. They are all Pz 55/60: M-78884 in Voorburg M-78884 in Malden Hope it will help Massimo

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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:13 am Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
Thanks Massimo will try to find them, however because they most likely privately owned they will be hard to find Michel _________________ I'm Not Crazy, I'm Just Not You

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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:17 am Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
Hello Massimo, Both have the same r/n? Regards, Lesley

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:34 am Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
Both have the same r/n? No, it was a typo on my side, sorry Right now I am on the road for the whole gig, and don't have the data to give you the exact r/n. Will be back home during the weekend. If I forget to post, please remind me Massimo

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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:14 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
Correct r/n: M-78884 in Voorburg M-78885 in Malden Hope it will help. Please let me know if you catch these or any other ex-swiss Centurion. Massimo

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