±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 343
Total: 343
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Downloads
03: Photo Gallery
04: Home
05: Home
06: Home
07: Home
08: Downloads
09: Home
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Downloads
15: Photo Gallery
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Photo Gallery
20: Member Screenshots
21: Photo Gallery
22: Downloads
23: Photo Gallery
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: Home
27: Downloads
28: Home
29: News Archive
30: Statistics
31: Photo Gallery
32: Community Forums
33: Home
34: Member Screenshots
35: Community Forums
36: Photo Gallery
37: Home
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Home
43: Photo Gallery
44: Statistics
45: Home
46: Member Screenshots
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Photo Gallery
50: Photo Gallery
51: Photo Gallery
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Home
56: Community Forums
57: Home
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Photo Gallery
62: Community Forums
63: Photo Gallery
64: Home
65: Photo Gallery
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Downloads
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Your Account
74: Member Screenshots
75: Downloads
76: Home
77: Home
78: Home
79: Statistics
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Member Screenshots
84: Home
85: Community Forums
86: Downloads
87: Home
88: Community Forums
89: Photo Gallery
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Home
95: Community Forums
96: Home
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Photo Gallery
106: Photo Gallery
107: Member Screenshots
108: Photo Gallery
109: Statistics
110: Photo Gallery
111: Community Forums
112: Home
113: Community Forums
114: Statistics
115: Home
116: News Archive
117: Search
118: Home
119: Photo Gallery
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Home
125: Photo Gallery
126: Community Forums
127: Home
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Home
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Downloads
137: Home
138: Community Forums
139: Photo Gallery
140: News
141: Home
142: Home
143: Community Forums
144: Photo Gallery
145: Community Forums
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Downloads
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Statistics
155: Community Forums
156: Member Screenshots
157: Home
158: Statistics
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Home
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Statistics
165: Member Screenshots
166: Home
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Treasury
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Downloads
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Home
178: Photo Gallery
179: Home
180: Photo Gallery
181: Community Forums
182: Home
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Downloads
187: Home
188: Community Forums
189: News Archive
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Downloads
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Statistics
198: Community Forums
199: Home
200: Statistics
201: Home
202: Community Forums
203: Home
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Community Forums
207: Photo Gallery
208: Community Forums
209: Downloads
210: Photo Gallery
211: Photo Gallery
212: Downloads
213: Home
214: Photo Gallery
215: Photo Gallery
216: Community Forums
217: Photo Gallery
218: Home
219: Downloads
220: Community Forums
221: News
222: Photo Gallery
223: Community Forums
224: Photo Gallery
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Home
230: News
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Home
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Home
238: Community Forums
239: Downloads
240: Community Forums
241: Member Screenshots
242: Photo Gallery
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: Photo Gallery
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Photo Gallery
249: Photo Gallery
250: Community Forums
251: Home
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Photo Gallery
257: Statistics
258: Downloads
259: Statistics
260: Community Forums
261: Downloads
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Photo Gallery
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Home
268: Home
269: Home
270: Home
271: Member Screenshots
272: Community Forums
273: Photo Gallery
274: Community Forums
275: Photo Gallery
276: Community Forums
277: Photo Gallery
278: Treasury
279: Photo Gallery
280: Photo Gallery
281: Member Screenshots
282: Home
283: Member Screenshots
284: Photo Gallery
285: Community Forums
286: Statistics
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Community Forums
290: Community Forums
291: Photo Gallery
292: Downloads
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Photo Gallery
297: Home
298: News Archive
299: Statistics
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Home
303: Photo Gallery
304: Photo Gallery
305: Community Forums
306: Downloads
307: Community Forums
308: Photo Gallery
309: Downloads
310: Photo Gallery
311: Downloads
312: Home
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Your Account
317: Downloads
318: Photo Gallery
319: Photo Gallery
320: Home
321: Home
322: Home
323: Member Screenshots
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Home
327: Home
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: News Archive
331: Downloads
332: Photo Gallery
333: Photo Gallery
334: Photo Gallery
335: Community Forums
336: Downloads
337: Community Forums
338: Photo Gallery
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Downloads
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
News from Ft Knox
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 5, 6, 7 ... 17, 18, 19  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:36 pm
Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

The discussion about the FK Pz III has prompted me to start uploading my FK photos, starting with the German vehicles, so this is good timing. The Hummel photos are here:

Fort Knox Hummel (UID189)


- Dontos
Well technically. It is one of the original Patton Collection pieces that arrived at Ft Knox in 1946. It was one of two Hummels. It seems that most of those original vehicles came to Ft Knox via APG.


That was news to me, Don, so I've added the information - I hope that's alright. Would I be pushing my luck to ask if it would be alright to add your new photos?


For those not familiar with it, this is the other Hummel originally at FK:

Munster Hummel (UID187)

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:39 pm
Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

Trevor

You are not pushing your luck at all. Feel free to use any of the photos I have posted.

Regards
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:38 am
Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

I just thought i would post this for no reason
just happen to see it
Back to top
View user's profile
panamadan
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 174

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:54 am
Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

I wonder what they were thinking on their choice of color?
Dan
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
C_Sherman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 590

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:37 am
Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

- panamadan
I wonder what they were thinking on their choice of color?
Dan
Dan,

That pic looks to me like it is in the original colors. Compared to the US vehicle (half-track?) in the background, the color is significantly lighter than OD.

Over the years we have had several extensive discussions here about the unreliability of colors in older photos. Suffice it to say that you really shouldn't judge the color from that print. There are so many factors, starting with the chemistry of the film/negative itself, that affect the appearance of colors in those old B/W pictures. And don't even START the discussion of color photos... Rolling Eyes

Chuck

_________________
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it
will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
-Herm Albright

Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
VonForhud
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 17, 2010
Posts: 162

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:59 am
Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

It has lost its headlight and the spare tracks since the 80´s I can see.
Back to top
View user's profile
panamadan
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 174

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:05 pm
Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

What I'm talking about is the tanish color that vehicles at APG were painted many years ago-and this Hummel seems to be in the same color. I'm not debating what color is correct for OD, etc just their odd choice of color.
Dan
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Garry_Redmon
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 398
Location: Kentucky
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:50 pm
Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

I have made a page showing the Hummels as they appeared at the old Patton Museum c. 1965 showing paint schemes along with the late model shown behind the new museum in the late 90s. The quality of the old museum photos are not great since they were taken with a Brownie box camera.

The page can be viewed at armorfortheages.com/Hummel.htm

Don may be privy to more information than I, but I wasn't aware that the Hummels came to the museum via APG. I was told that all of the vehicles from the original collection that came in 1946 were vehicles selected by 3rd Army staff during the war by order of General Patton and sent directly to Fort Knox after his death for use by the Armor School.

Garry

_________________
armorfortheages.com/
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
panamadan
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 174

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:58 pm
Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

Garry,
Is there are writen or photografic records of the vehicles that were collected?
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
VonForhud
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 17, 2010
Posts: 162

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:26 pm
Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

Nice battledamage on the Hummel with the hole in the barrel.

_________________
hvasnakkerduom.blogspo...wagen.html
Back to top
View user's profile
Garry_Redmon
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 398
Location: Kentucky
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:59 pm
Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

- panamadan
Garry,
Is there are writen or photografic records of the vehicles that were collected?


I'm sure there is something in the museum's records. Since Don has been doing alot of research in the library, that's probably where he found out about the APG connection.

_________________
armorfortheages.com/
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
panamadan
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 174

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:14 pm
Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

Let's hope that he has some luck! It would make a quite a photo-albuim.
Dan
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:52 pm
Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

When I see those photos of the old museum and Bob's pics, I get really annoyed with myself for not having taken more pictures back in the early '70's when I had the chance. Had an Insta-matic in '71, but 35mm when I came back in '72....unfortunately, I didn't have the interest. Grrrr......
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:21 pm
Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

- Dontos
Trevor

You are not pushing your luck at all. Feel free to use any of the photos I have posted.

Regards
Don


Many thanks! I've added that photo plus your ones on PhotoBucket, so the 'time machine' view is coming along very nicely:

Fort Knox Hummel (UID189)


- Garry_Redmon
I have made a page showing the Hummels as they appeared at the old Patton Museum c. 1965 showing paint schemes along with the late model shown behind the new museum in the late 90s. The quality of the old museum photos are not great since they were taken with a Brownie box camera.

The page can be viewed at armorfortheages.com/Hummel.htm


Nice pics - I've added a link to that page on each Hummel's page (and to the Munster StuG page).

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:07 pm
Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

A year or so ago, while doing some research, I was shown one of the first deliver manifests, dated Dec 1946. The list was quite incomplete to what is known as original collection vehicles. It was a fairly short list, so the complete 'Patton Collection' of WWII vehicles did not arrive in one shipment but in several.

I do know of a couple vehicles that were photographed at APG prior to arriving here at Ft Knox. They are part of the original collection, so my assumption is that they may have been all shipped together, and it was easier to seperate them at APG. I could be wrong though.

As for a 'complete list',....I have never seen or heard of any Third Army list of vehicles, compiled prior to departure from ETO.

One of the most confusing & perhaps noteworthy items in the arriving vehicle manifest is ..... A Bergpanther! Shocked

Cool
Regards
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 6 of 19
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 5, 6, 7 ... 17, 18, 19  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum