±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 715
Total: 715
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Treasury
06: Community Forums
07: Photo Gallery
08: News
09: Community Forums
10: Home
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Home
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: News Archive
17: Home
18: Member Screenshots
19: Home
20: Community Forums
21: Downloads
22: Member Screenshots
23: News Archive
24: Community Forums
25: Home
26: Community Forums
27: Member Screenshots
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Home
31: Member Screenshots
32: Home
33: Home
34: Community Forums
35: Community Forums
36: Home
37: Community Forums
38: Home
39: Community Forums
40: Downloads
41: Your Account
42: Member Screenshots
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Home
47: Home
48: Home
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Home
55: Community Forums
56: Home
57: Home
58: Downloads
59: Home
60: Home
61: Home
62: Community Forums
63: Downloads
64: Member Screenshots
65: Home
66: News Archive
67: Home
68: Home
69: Community Forums
70: Home
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Home
74: Community Forums
75: Home
76: Photo Gallery
77: Community Forums
78: Home
79: Home
80: Member Screenshots
81: Community Forums
82: Member Screenshots
83: Community Forums
84: Home
85: Home
86: Community Forums
87: Photo Gallery
88: Community Forums
89: Your Account
90: Statistics
91: Member Screenshots
92: Home
93: Home
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Statistics
100: Community Forums
101: Downloads
102: Home
103: Community Forums
104: Photo Gallery
105: Community Forums
106: Photo Gallery
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Downloads
110: Community Forums
111: Home
112: Home
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Home
119: Member Screenshots
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Downloads
123: Community Forums
124: News Archive
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: News Archive
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Member Screenshots
132: Community Forums
133: News Archive
134: Home
135: Community Forums
136: Downloads
137: Member Screenshots
138: Member Screenshots
139: Member Screenshots
140: Downloads
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: News
147: News Archive
148: News Archive
149: Community Forums
150: Home
151: Home
152: Home
153: Home
154: Home
155: Home
156: Home
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Home
160: Photo Gallery
161: Community Forums
162: Member Screenshots
163: Member Screenshots
164: Home
165: Community Forums
166: Home
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Home
170: Community Forums
171: Member Screenshots
172: Member Screenshots
173: Home
174: Community Forums
175: Home
176: Home
177: Community Forums
178: Member Screenshots
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Member Screenshots
184: Downloads
185: Downloads
186: Photo Gallery
187: Home
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Home
194: Home
195: Home
196: Home
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Home
202: Downloads
203: Community Forums
204: Member Screenshots
205: Community Forums
206: Your Account
207: Member Screenshots
208: Community Forums
209: Home
210: Home
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Member Screenshots
214: News Archive
215: Community Forums
216: Photo Gallery
217: Home
218: Member Screenshots
219: Home
220: Photo Gallery
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Home
224: Community Forums
225: Member Screenshots
226: Community Forums
227: Home
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Member Screenshots
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Home
236: Home
237: Home
238: Home
239: Photo Gallery
240: Home
241: Community Forums
242: Downloads
243: Home
244: Home
245: Home
246: Community Forums
247: Home
248: News
249: Community Forums
250: Home
251: Community Forums
252: News
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Home
257: Supporters
258: Home
259: Home
260: Community Forums
261: Home
262: Member Screenshots
263: Community Forums
264: Home
265: Home
266: Home
267: Home
268: Home
269: Home
270: Member Screenshots
271: Home
272: Home
273: Home
274: Home
275: News Archive
276: Community Forums
277: Home
278: Community Forums
279: Home
280: Community Forums
281: Member Screenshots
282: Home
283: Community Forums
284: Home
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: News Archive
288: Photo Gallery
289: Member Screenshots
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Community Forums
294: Member Screenshots
295: Home
296: Home
297: Community Forums
298: News Archive
299: Community Forums
300: Photo Gallery
301: Community Forums
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: News
305: Community Forums
306: Home
307: News Archive
308: Community Forums
309: Home
310: Your Account
311: Home
312: Community Forums
313: Home
314: Community Forums
315: Photo Gallery
316: Community Forums
317: Community Forums
318: Community Forums
319: Downloads
320: Photo Gallery
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Home
324: News Archive
325: Community Forums
326: Downloads
327: Home
328: Community Forums
329: Home
330: Community Forums
331: Home
332: Community Forums
333: Community Forums
334: News Archive
335: News
336: Member Screenshots
337: Home
338: Home
339: Downloads
340: Community Forums
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: Photo Gallery
344: Community Forums
345: News
346: Community Forums
347: Community Forums
348: Statistics
349: Home
350: Photo Gallery
351: Photo Gallery
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Community Forums
356: Photo Gallery
357: Community Forums
358: Community Forums
359: Downloads
360: Community Forums
361: Home
362: News Archive
363: Your Account
364: Photo Gallery
365: Community Forums
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Photo Gallery
371: Home
372: Statistics
373: Statistics
374: Treasury
375: Member Screenshots
376: Home
377: Community Forums
378: Home
379: Home
380: Home
381: Home
382: Community Forums
383: Home
384: Member Screenshots
385: Home
386: Home
387: Home
388: Home
389: Community Forums
390: Downloads
391: Community Forums
392: Home
393: Home
394: Community Forums
395: Home
396: Home
397: Home
398: Home
399: Home
400: Home
401: Home
402: Home
403: Downloads
404: Home
405: Community Forums
406: Community Forums
407: Home
408: Member Screenshots
409: Home
410: Community Forums
411: Community Forums
412: Home
413: Community Forums
414: Home
415: Downloads
416: Home
417: Home
418: Home
419: Community Forums
420: Community Forums
421: Community Forums
422: Community Forums
423: Home
424: Community Forums
425: Home
426: Home
427: Home
428: Home
429: Home
430: Home
431: Home
432: Home
433: Home
434: Home
435: Home
436: Home
437: Home
438: Home
439: News Archive
440: Home
441: Home
442: Home
443: Home
444: Home
445: Home
446: Home
447: Home
448: Home
449: Home
450: Community Forums
451: Home
452: Home
453: Home
454: Community Forums
455: News Archive
456: Home
457: Member Screenshots
458: Home
459: Home
460: Home
461: Home
462: Home
463: Home
464: Home
465: Home
466: Home
467: Home
468: Home
469: Member Screenshots
470: Community Forums
471: Home
472: Home
473: Home
474: Home
475: Home
476: News Archive
477: Home
478: Home
479: Home
480: Home
481: Community Forums
482: Home
483: Home
484: Home
485: Home
486: Home
487: Community Forums
488: Community Forums
489: Home
490: Home
491: Community Forums
492: Home
493: Home
494: Community Forums
495: Home
496: Home
497: Home
498: Community Forums
499: Home
500: Home
501: Home
502: Home
503: Downloads
504: Community Forums
505: Home
506: Home
507: Home
508: Home
509: Home
510: Home
511: Home
512: Home
513: Home
514: Downloads
515: Home
516: Home
517: Home
518: Community Forums
519: Community Forums
520: Home
521: Home
522: Home
523: Member Screenshots
524: Home
525: Home
526: Community Forums
527: Home
528: Home
529: Home
530: Home
531: Home
532: Your Account
533: Home
534: News Archive
535: Community Forums
536: Home
537: Community Forums
538: Home
539: Home
540: Home
541: Home
542: Home
543: Community Forums
544: Home
545: Home
546: Home
547: Home
548: Home
549: Home
550: Community Forums
551: Home
552: Home
553: Home
554: Home
555: Home
556: Home
557: Photo Gallery
558: Home
559: Home
560: Home
561: Home
562: Home
563: Home
564: Home
565: Community Forums
566: Home
567: Home
568: Home
569: Home
570: Home
571: Home
572: Statistics
573: Your Account
574: Home
575: Home
576: Home
577: Home
578: Home
579: Home
580: Home
581: Home
582: Home
583: Home
584: Home
585: Home
586: Home
587: Home
588: Home
589: Home
590: Home
591: Home
592: Photo Gallery
593: Home
594: Home
595: Home
596: Community Forums
597: Home
598: Home
599: Home
600: Community Forums
601: Home
602: Home
603: Home
604: Home
605: Home
606: Home
607: Home
608: Home
609: Home
610: Home
611: Home
612: Home
613: Home
614: Home
615: Home
616: Community Forums
617: Home
618: Home
619: Home
620: Home
621: Home
622: Home
623: Home
624: Home
625: Home
626: Home
627: Home
628: Home
629: Home
630: Home
631: Home
632: Home
633: Home
634: Home
635: Home
636: Home
637: Home
638: Home
639: Home
640: Home
641: Home
642: Home
643: Home
644: Home
645: Home
646: Home
647: Home
648: Home
649: Home
650: Home
651: Home
652: Home
653: Home
654: Home
655: Home
656: Photo Gallery
657: Home
658: Home
659: Home
660: Home
661: Home
662: Home
663: Home
664: Home
665: Home
666: Home
667: Home
668: Home
669: Home
670: Home
671: Home
672: Home
673: Home
674: Home
675: Home
676: Home
677: Home
678: Photo Gallery
679: Home
680: Home
681: Home
682: Home
683: Home
684: Home
685: Community Forums
686: Home
687: Your Account
688: Home
689: Home
690: Home
691: Home
692: Home
693: Home
694: Home
695: Home
696: Home
697: Home
698: Home
699: Community Forums
700: Member Screenshots
701: Community Forums
702: Community Forums
703: Community Forums
704: Community Forums
705: Home
706: Home
707: Community Forums
708: Community Forums
709: Community Forums
710: Member Screenshots
711: Community Forums
712: Home
713: Photo Gallery
714: Community Forums
715: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Surviving Pz 61 and Pz 68
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:13 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

Pz 68 (M-77807) should be in Military Museum of Southern New England, Danbury, CT (USA). Neil, do you know anything about this?

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:32 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

I visited and photographed the collection in August 2008 and didn't see one then.

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:48 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

Based on swiss records we know one was acquired by the Museum. That's all I have so far

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

by the way, I found today a brand new vehicles list for the MM-SNE in Danbury :

Indoor :

http://www.usmilitarymuseum.org/sitefiles/exhibits.html

Outdoor :

http://www.usmilitarymuseum.org/sitefiles/exhibits2.html

On this list, there are not 3 Locusts, but only 1. Some vehicles desingations are also more accurate than on this list :
http://web.archive.org/web/19980610112213/http:/www.danbury.org/org/military/farti.htm#vehicles

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:16 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

Inside I saw just one Locust, and the M1917 was gone. The outdoor list doesn't exactly match what I saw either - for example I took pictures of a Centurion and M42 Duster. Note the IS-2 (partial) was just a turret.

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:19 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

The Centurion should be a swiss Pz 55/60. r/n M-78551

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:23 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

Yes, from a quick look at the photos I can confirm the reg is "78551". It looks like the 'M' has been painted over, possibly because the label says "Centurion Tank United Kingdom".

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:56 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

- L.Delsing
This is a picture of the number on the nose of the Best (NLD) Pz 61. The last 3 digits are the same as the last 3 of the registration number (M-77620)


Exactly so - I couldn't have put it better myself! Did you know this, or just checked? Anyway, I've uploaded my Muckleburgh pics for comparison:

Muckleburgh Panzer 61

It should at least be a way to confirm or even find out the registration of Panzer 61s. The other digits may also give us some other information (serial number, if different?) if we can work them out.

Edit: In fact, I can see now the other digits - 971 6545 - are the same in Lesley's photo and mine, so maybe it's just a code for 'Panzer 61'.

Number close-up

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:47 am
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

That's a very coold discovery. From now on I'll try to double-check Pz 61 and 68 for the stamped numbers.

I'll keep you updated, Thanks!

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:52 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to apply to the Pz 68 - at least I can't see a number on the Muckleburgh one:

Muckleburgh Pz 68 (no text)

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:39 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

I just updated the registers with new tanks and pictures:
www.massimocorner.com/...8_Pz61.pdf
www.massimocorner.com/...g_Pz68.pdf

I am still mssing pictures of a lot of Pz 68s and some Pz 61s Sad

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:21 am
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

Pz 68 (M-77717), Frankfurt (Germany) will soon move to Belgium. I will post more details as soon as I get them.

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
Landsverk
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 10, 2010
Posts: 48

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:57 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

There is a Pz 68 in Sweden, Army Museum Collection located at the Army Museum depo i Strangnas.
Registration 77707

I do not know if this vehicle will be on display in the new museum or if it will be a part of the study colllection, but I think that the museum will keep the tank in running condition for future outdoor events. Cool

The photos are from the 40-years anniversary last August, just before the vehicle collection was relocated from the Museum in Axvall to the depo in Strangnas.
The new museum is planned to open late spring 2011.

arsenalen.se/en/pam_40.aspx
Back to top
View user's profile
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

Thanks Landsverk, luckly that tank is pretty well documented. The most elusive ones usually belong to private collections.

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:37 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

- Landsverk
The photos are from the 40-years anniversary last August, just before the vehicle collection was relocated from the Museum in Axvall to the depo in Strangnas.
The new museum is planned to open late spring 2011.

arsenalen.se/en/pam_40.aspx


I'm sad to say I never got to see the Axvall museum, and never will now. The museum staff kindly sent me photo's of the German vehicles for inclusion in Preserved German Tanks, and they can now be seen online:

Axvall Pansarmuseet

I'll make sure I visit Strangnas as soon as it's open.

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 2 of 5
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum