±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 708
Total: 708
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Home
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Photo Gallery
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Home
16: Community Forums
17: News Archive
18: Downloads
19: Downloads
20: Home
21: Home
22: Photo Gallery
23: Your Account
24: Community Forums
25: Member Screenshots
26: Community Forums
27: Home
28: Community Forums
29: Downloads
30: Community Forums
31: Member Screenshots
32: Home
33: Member Screenshots
34: Community Forums
35: Member Screenshots
36: Member Screenshots
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Downloads
40: Community Forums
41: Photo Gallery
42: Downloads
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Home
46: Downloads
47: Member Screenshots
48: Community Forums
49: Photo Gallery
50: Photo Gallery
51: Downloads
52: Photo Gallery
53: Community Forums
54: Member Screenshots
55: Member Screenshots
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Member Screenshots
61: Member Screenshots
62: Community Forums
63: Home
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Member Screenshots
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Home
74: Photo Gallery
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Downloads
78: Home
79: Home
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Home
83: Photo Gallery
84: Member Screenshots
85: Photo Gallery
86: Community Forums
87: Member Screenshots
88: Home
89: Member Screenshots
90: Member Screenshots
91: Statistics
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: News Archive
96: Photo Gallery
97: Community Forums
98: Member Screenshots
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Downloads
102: Photo Gallery
103: Community Forums
104: Photo Gallery
105: Statistics
106: Downloads
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Photo Gallery
111: News Archive
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Photo Gallery
115: Community Forums
116: Downloads
117: Member Screenshots
118: Home
119: News Archive
120: Photo Gallery
121: Photo Gallery
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Member Screenshots
125: Photo Gallery
126: Downloads
127: Downloads
128: Photo Gallery
129: Home
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Member Screenshots
134: Home
135: Downloads
136: Home
137: Member Screenshots
138: Community Forums
139: News
140: Photo Gallery
141: Downloads
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Home
145: Community Forums
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Downloads
150: Community Forums
151: Downloads
152: Photo Gallery
153: Community Forums
154: Photo Gallery
155: Community Forums
156: Member Screenshots
157: News Archive
158: Member Screenshots
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Home
164: Your Account
165: Member Screenshots
166: Statistics
167: Photo Gallery
168: Community Forums
169: Photo Gallery
170: Member Screenshots
171: Member Screenshots
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Home
178: Community Forums
179: Photo Gallery
180: Home
181: Member Screenshots
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Member Screenshots
188: Community Forums
189: Member Screenshots
190: Photo Gallery
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Downloads
195: Photo Gallery
196: Photo Gallery
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Statistics
200: Community Forums
201: Home
202: Community Forums
203: Member Screenshots
204: Home
205: Photo Gallery
206: Community Forums
207: Photo Gallery
208: Photo Gallery
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Photo Gallery
212: Photo Gallery
213: Community Forums
214: Home
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Home
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Photo Gallery
225: Community Forums
226: Your Account
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Photo Gallery
231: Photo Gallery
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Photo Gallery
235: Photo Gallery
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Photo Gallery
241: Community Forums
242: Statistics
243: Home
244: Home
245: Photo Gallery
246: Photo Gallery
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Member Screenshots
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Photo Gallery
254: Member Screenshots
255: Photo Gallery
256: Community Forums
257: Your Account
258: Photo Gallery
259: Photo Gallery
260: Member Screenshots
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Photo Gallery
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: News
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Photo Gallery
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Home
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Home
276: Community Forums
277: Member Screenshots
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Home
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums
284: Photo Gallery
285: Home
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Home
289: Community Forums
290: Photo Gallery
291: Photo Gallery
292: Member Screenshots
293: Home
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Member Screenshots
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Photo Gallery
303: Community Forums
304: Home
305: Community Forums
306: Photo Gallery
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: Your Account
310: Community Forums
311: Community Forums
312: Photo Gallery
313: Photo Gallery
314: Community Forums
315: Photo Gallery
316: Photo Gallery
317: Community Forums
318: Photo Gallery
319: Community Forums
320: Your Account
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: News Archive
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Downloads
327: Home
328: Home
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Statistics
332: Downloads
333: Community Forums
334: Community Forums
335: Home
336: Home
337: Community Forums
338: Home
339: Community Forums
340: Photo Gallery
341: Downloads
342: Home
343: Community Forums
344: Photo Gallery
345: Home
346: Community Forums
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Member Screenshots
350: Home
351: Member Screenshots
352: Member Screenshots
353: Community Forums
354: Photo Gallery
355: Statistics
356: Home
357: News Archive
358: News Archive
359: Downloads
360: Community Forums
361: Member Screenshots
362: Community Forums
363: Home
364: Community Forums
365: Community Forums
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Community Forums
369: Statistics
370: Home
371: News
372: Downloads
373: Photo Gallery
374: Photo Gallery
375: Community Forums
376: Photo Gallery
377: Community Forums
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Community Forums
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Member Screenshots
386: Community Forums
387: Community Forums
388: Home
389: Member Screenshots
390: Photo Gallery
391: Community Forums
392: Your Account
393: Community Forums
394: Downloads
395: Home
396: Downloads
397: Downloads
398: Member Screenshots
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Home
405: Member Screenshots
406: Photo Gallery
407: Community Forums
408: Downloads
409: News
410: Downloads
411: Community Forums
412: Home
413: Community Forums
414: Community Forums
415: Community Forums
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Community Forums
419: Member Screenshots
420: Community Forums
421: Community Forums
422: Community Forums
423: Community Forums
424: Statistics
425: Downloads
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: Photo Gallery
429: Community Forums
430: Community Forums
431: Home
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Community Forums
435: Community Forums
436: Community Forums
437: Photo Gallery
438: Downloads
439: Community Forums
440: Member Screenshots
441: News Archive
442: Member Screenshots
443: Community Forums
444: Downloads
445: Photo Gallery
446: Community Forums
447: Home
448: Photo Gallery
449: Community Forums
450: Community Forums
451: Statistics
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Statistics
455: Community Forums
456: Member Screenshots
457: Photo Gallery
458: Your Account
459: Community Forums
460: Home
461: Photo Gallery
462: Community Forums
463: News
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: Community Forums
467: News Archive
468: Community Forums
469: Member Screenshots
470: Downloads
471: Community Forums
472: Photo Gallery
473: Home
474: Home
475: Home
476: Member Screenshots
477: Member Screenshots
478: Community Forums
479: Downloads
480: Photo Gallery
481: Community Forums
482: Community Forums
483: Community Forums
484: Community Forums
485: Community Forums
486: Home
487: Community Forums
488: Downloads
489: Photo Gallery
490: Community Forums
491: Community Forums
492: Member Screenshots
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Downloads
496: Member Screenshots
497: Home
498: Community Forums
499: Member Screenshots
500: Home
501: Member Screenshots
502: Community Forums
503: Downloads
504: Community Forums
505: Community Forums
506: Photo Gallery
507: Photo Gallery
508: Community Forums
509: Community Forums
510: Community Forums
511: Photo Gallery
512: Downloads
513: Community Forums
514: Community Forums
515: Home
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Home
519: Community Forums
520: Member Screenshots
521: Home
522: Community Forums
523: Photo Gallery
524: Home
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Community Forums
528: Photo Gallery
529: Photo Gallery
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Community Forums
533: Downloads
534: Your Account
535: Community Forums
536: Member Screenshots
537: Home
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Member Screenshots
541: Home
542: Community Forums
543: Home
544: Statistics
545: Home
546: Home
547: Community Forums
548: Community Forums
549: Community Forums
550: Community Forums
551: Community Forums
552: Community Forums
553: Home
554: Home
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Community Forums
558: Member Screenshots
559: Downloads
560: Home
561: Community Forums
562: Your Account
563: Photo Gallery
564: Statistics
565: Member Screenshots
566: Community Forums
567: Downloads
568: Community Forums
569: Community Forums
570: Community Forums
571: Photo Gallery
572: Community Forums
573: News Archive
574: Community Forums
575: Community Forums
576: Home
577: Community Forums
578: Community Forums
579: Photo Gallery
580: Home
581: Community Forums
582: Community Forums
583: Downloads
584: Community Forums
585: Community Forums
586: Community Forums
587: Statistics
588: Community Forums
589: Home
590: Downloads
591: Photo Gallery
592: Photo Gallery
593: Home
594: Photo Gallery
595: Community Forums
596: Community Forums
597: Community Forums
598: Downloads
599: Community Forums
600: Community Forums
601: Community Forums
602: Member Screenshots
603: Photo Gallery
604: Downloads
605: Community Forums
606: Downloads
607: Photo Gallery
608: Community Forums
609: Member Screenshots
610: Member Screenshots
611: Community Forums
612: Photo Gallery
613: Community Forums
614: Community Forums
615: Community Forums
616: Community Forums
617: Community Forums
618: Community Forums
619: Photo Gallery
620: News Archive
621: Community Forums
622: Photo Gallery
623: Photo Gallery
624: Home
625: Your Account
626: Community Forums
627: Community Forums
628: Treasury
629: Community Forums
630: Downloads
631: Member Screenshots
632: Home
633: Community Forums
634: Home
635: Home
636: Home
637: Home
638: Home
639: Downloads
640: Community Forums
641: News Archive
642: Community Forums
643: Member Screenshots
644: Member Screenshots
645: Home
646: Member Screenshots
647: Photo Gallery
648: Downloads
649: Your Account
650: Photo Gallery
651: Home
652: Home
653: Home
654: Home
655: Community Forums
656: Community Forums
657: Downloads
658: Photo Gallery
659: Photo Gallery
660: Community Forums
661: Home
662: Home
663: Community Forums
664: Community Forums
665: Supporters
666: Member Screenshots
667: Community Forums
668: Photo Gallery
669: Community Forums
670: Downloads
671: Statistics
672: Community Forums
673: Community Forums
674: Home
675: Community Forums
676: Member Screenshots
677: Home
678: Community Forums
679: Home
680: Home
681: Home
682: Community Forums
683: Community Forums
684: Member Screenshots
685: Home
686: Home
687: Home
688: Community Forums
689: Community Forums
690: Community Forums
691: Community Forums
692: Community Forums
693: News Archive
694: Member Screenshots
695: Member Screenshots
696: Community Forums
697: Community Forums
698: Community Forums
699: Photo Gallery
700: Home
701: Home
702: Community Forums
703: Member Screenshots
704: Photo Gallery
705: Community Forums
706: Downloads
707: Home
708: Member Screenshots

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
AFV interiors
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
warddw
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 24

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 7:16 pm
Post subject: AFV interiors

Does anyone have a full backup of that website? I did but lost it in a disk crash...

Regards
Scotsman
Back to top
View user's profile
Michel_Krauss
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 30, 2009
Posts: 953
Location: Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:18 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV interiors

Because of the question I got curious and started digging an little

That's because I don't know the original site

I found an site with an link where it is possible to download an big part of the photo's

link killed

If you look at the part of "March 17, 2010" there is an link to download an rar file with an lot of picture's

This site is from the person who build the "diorama clervaux"
the big 1/35 castle that appeared in an lot of modelling magazine's

However I don't know if the photo's are as good / big as the original photo's Neutral

Michel

post edited: removed link

_________________
I'm Not Crazy, I'm Just Not You


Last edited by Michel_Krauss on Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:36 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile
Koluchiy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 19, 2009
Posts: 178

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:43 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV interiors

Thank you very much :).

That was good site... :'-(

_________________
RTY on other forums;

Looking for Pz.IV manuals D 653/2 Erzatsteilliste(pictures), D 653/10, D 653/25 (Handbuch fur den Panzerfahrer), D 653/50b, D 653/50c, D653/51
Looking for Maybach HL120 repair instruction...
(Copyes or scans)
Can pay money or exchange
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:27 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV interiors

I hope he obtained Mike Kendall's permission to upload that as Mike was very emphatic about that not being done. He'd announced the end of his website long in advance and encouraged downloading anything of interest, but with the proviso that it not be uploaded or reproduced anywhere without his explicit permission.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
tanker2010
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
Posts: 264
Location: Kansas City, Mo.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:52 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV interiors

No, he did not. When he posted this link up on Armorama a few months back, he was asked if he did and he said no. A few people said it wasn't right to do it, but as with a lot of people on the web, he says once it's out there anyone can use it. He was also trying to promote his own website by the fact he had the pics there.


Last edited by tanker2010 on Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:08 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
chrisballance
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 16, 2010
Posts: 31

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:20 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV interiors

AFV Interiors was of the great 1st generation AFV websites, but like a lot of those first generation sites its gone for a reason, it was unsustainable. I never had the chance to meet Mike Kendall, and so I don't know all the reasons for shuttering of AFV Interiors, but I do know servers and bandwidth cost money and individuals burn out easily when profit is not available to deal with ever rising out of pocket costs. AFV Interiors could have made a great book series in a format like Panzerwrecks, but it's unlikely to happen as long as Mike's site is still available for free on net (if you know where to look). There are just not enough people willing to pay for the specialized content.

But maybe, just maybe, I am wrong and there is a way....

_________________
Chris Ballance


Last edited by chrisballance on Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:26 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:24 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV interiors

- tanker2010
No, he did not. When he posted this link up on Armorama a few months back, he was asked if he did and he said no. A few people said it wasn't right to do it, but as with a lot of people on the web, he says once it's out there anyone can use it. He was also trying to promote his on website by the fact he had the pics there.


Please check your PM's. Thanks.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Michel_Krauss
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 30, 2009
Posts: 953
Location: Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:50 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV interiors

Guy's,

because of the discusion I received an mail from the owner of the site with the download link

This is what he send me, I copied the precise text:

I just read the discussion on this website and i do not want to register just to clarify this.
I would like to ask you if you can rectify the last poster (tanker 2010)

I indeed did not ask the original owner of the website (i have no particular interest in AFV and did not even know who is the owner until this discussions).
I only remember what another poster said that everybody interested should download it before closing down.
I have the file, see the repeated desire of posters to get it, i have a small website, so that's it.

I do not remember anything else , like this proviso (sp) to not offer for download anymore.

So i am of the opinion that it was his desire to get it out. I do care about copyright but consider this one as legitimate.
If tanker2010 can prove his opinion, i will delete the file. He reads Armorama and could have raised his voice then, but i do not remember that.
People with a bad conscience should simply not download it then.
As over a hundred did download it, i think i did the right thing to offer it to the community.

I do not earn money by luring people to my site, there are no Google ads, nothing, so there is no commercial thinking behind this also.
The audience (AFV interested) is probably not interested in my book anyway, so i don't take that as an argument.
Anyway, after the initial rush it soon calmed down and nobody looks at it anymore. Well, until now.

Greets


I removed the link from my first post and for me the discussion is over

Michel

_________________
I'm Not Crazy, I'm Just Not You
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:04 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV interiors

- Michel_Krauss
Guy's,

because of the discusion I received an mail from the owner of the site with the download link

This is what he send me, I copied the precise text:

I just read the discussion on this website and i do not want to register just to clarify this.
I would like to ask you if you can rectify the last poster (tanker 2010)

I indeed did not ask the original owner of the website (i have no particular interest in AFV and did not even know who is the owner until this discussions).
I only remember what another poster said that everybody interested should download it before closing down.
I have the file, see the repeated desire of posters to get it, i have a small website, so that's it.

I do not remember anything else , like this proviso (sp) to not offer for download anymore.

So i am of the opinion that it was his desire to get it out. I do care about copyright but consider this one as legitimate.
If tanker2010 can prove his opinion, i will delete the file. He reads Armorama and could have raised his voice then, but i do not remember that.
People with a bad conscience should simply not download it then.
As over a hundred did download it, i think i did the right thing to offer it to the community.

I do not earn money by luring people to my site, there are no Google ads, nothing, so there is no commercial thinking behind this also.
The audience (AFV interested) is probably not interested in my book anyway, so i don't take that as an argument.
Anyway, after the initial rush it soon calmed down and nobody looks at it anymore. Well, until now.

Greets


I removed the link from my first post and for me the discussion is over

Michel


A lot of prevarication going on in his reply. Mike Kendall's intentions were made very clear...as I was one of many contributors to that site, he and I had periodic contact and there is no mistaking what his position was regarding reproduction of the material there. This also means that those many people who contributed material to Mike for use on his site are having it distributed without their permission. This is offensive.

Clearly, this individual is driven by a mis-guided sense of entitlement to the labors of others and if the original author (whose intentions were made abundantly clear) is not around to object, well, he'll just upload it as he sees fit. Part of the "if it exists digitally, then it must be free, whatever the author's wishes were" mentality. Absolutely lacking in character and principle.

Unconscionable.


Last edited by Doug_Kibbey on Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:41 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
piney
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 2330
Location: Republic of Southern New Jersey
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:59 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV interiors

I looked at this person's website and while he is a talented modeller, He is also selling a book about his work (no doubt copyrighted), I wonder how he would feel if his book were converted to a digital format and freely distributed without his permission (not even mentioning his loss of profits)?

_________________
The only good skwerril is a dead un
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
C_Sherman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 590

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:36 am
Post subject: Re: AFV interiors

- piney
I looked at this person's website and while he is a talented modeller, He is also selling a book about his work (no doubt copyrighted), I wonder how he would feel if his book were converted to a digital format and freely distributed without his permission (not even mentioning his loss of profits)?


It's only a matter of time! There is at least one site that I know of where you can download many hundreds of modeling reference books, including several of the Hunnicutt books. They apparently operate offshore, and there is nothing anyone seems to be able to do to stop it. It will be interesting to hear this fellow's comments when he discovers his expensive book available online for free.

C

_________________
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it
will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
-Herm Albright

Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
tanker2010
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
Posts: 264
Location: Kansas City, Mo.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:53 am
Post subject: Re: AFV interiors

Here was his original post on Armorama:

www.armorama.com/modul...222&page=1

If you scroll down through it, you'll see objections were raised by a TonyDz, as you can see, he just brushed aside the objection. There was also a small discussion about it on ML:

www.network54.com/Foru...Kendall...

Doug, you might be able to reach Mike through Greg Harting. This Claude, seems to think Mike gave him some kind of go ahead to put it out there, which it seems he did not.
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:01 am
Post subject: Re: AFV interiors

Somebody tell Mike that I will host it on JED if he is interested (yeah I miss it as well). At least then it will be available for people to see properly.

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:40 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV interiors

- JimWeb
Somebody tell Mike that I will host it on JED if he is interested (yeah I miss it as well). At least then it will be available for people to see properly.


That's generous of you Jim, but unless something has changed, he seemed not to be interested in pursuing. I say that because I made several offers before he took his site down seeking to host him for free (such as here, or another server I think would have offered) but after two moves already he declined and the interest seemed not to be there.
Circumstances change for people, and his may not have permitted continued involvement.

What is irrefutably clear is that if the creator/owner of a work wishes to take it down and not have it uploaded by others without permission, that certainly must be respected, unlike the present situation. Just because "demand is high" is no reason to ignore the rights of the owner. Some people seem to believe that if some people want it bad enough, they have the right to upload someone else' work. I've tried to reach Mike (yesterday), but my email hit a dead-end as he'd changed service.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:49 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV interiors

- tanker2010
Here was his original post on Armorama:

www.armorama.com/modul...amp;page=1

If you scroll down through it, you'll see objections were raised by a TonyDz, as you can see, he just brushed aside the objection. There was also a small discussion about it on ML:

www.network54.com/Foru...Kendall...

Doug, you might be able to reach Mike through Greg Harting. This Claude, seems to think Mike gave him some kind of go ahead to put it out there, which it seems he did not.


Looking at Greg's quote (I do not know him by name) he said the following:
_________________________________________________________
"Mike who?!
March 19 2010, 11:34 AM
Jim,

I see Mike on a semi-regular basis. If you're wanting to host AFV Interiors, Mike's not interested in putting it back up at this time - others have made the offer.

Greg Harting"
__________________________________________________________

That last sentence was exactly my experience and the space/bandwidth/traffic was not an issue for alternative sites. He wasn't interested (he and I broached the topic 3-4 times) and according to the date of Greg's post, still isn't.

Mike Kendall did a great service to the armor community and it's reprehensible that some people are paying him back by stealing his content and uploading against his wishes.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum