Bucharest. Need help on id

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:55 pm Post subject: Bucharest. Need help on id

I visited Muzeul Militar National in Bucharest. The most amazing artillery collection I ever seen Shocked

What's special about it is that guns come from so many different sources...

I managed to identify all my shots, apart from these 3 pieces:

1) I guess it's a soviet design. Something for airborne operation? It was sitting near a bunch of 122 mm and 152 mm soviet guns:

2) This has an id plate, but it's missing the brand:

3) This looks like a typical 75 mm field gun from the 1900-15 period, most likely Krupp:

Massimo

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

Hello Massimo,
Nice pictures, unfortunatelyu I can't help you with artillery.

Do you have a list what you have seen/spotted there (tanks, APC's etc)

Regards,
Lesley

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: Bucharest. Need help on id

I'll post about the AFVs soon. But it will take time, I have well over 1500 shots, and they are still in RAW format, waiting to be post-processed. On top of that I have:

- 900 RAWs from my last visit to Full
- 400 RAWs from a recent visit to Morges
- 2000+ RAWS from my visit to Saumur
- 150 RAWs from a friend's wedding

Tomorrow I will be in Emmen (Luzern) for an airshow, so I expect another 1000 shots or the like. Well, it may take a while to get everything done Smile

Massimo

Doug_Kibbey · Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: Bucharest. Need help on id

Massimo_Foti wrote:

I visited Muzeul Militar National in Bucharest. The most amazing artillery collection I ever seen Shocked

Massimo

It's quite a place, I've been four times and there's still stuff I haven't seen to my satisfaction.

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: Bucharest. Need help on id

Doug_Kibbey wrote:

It's quite a place, I've been four times and there's still stuff I haven't seen to my satisfaction.

It's indeed a great place. Your pictures and reports encouraged me to go, and it was even beyond my expectations. Once again, thank you very much.

As you noted, it would be better to go in fall/winter, with much less leaves around. Problem is that in that season you may face rain or snow; but I can see myself going back there in the future. After all plane tickets are cheap, plus hotel and restaurants are very good value for money over there. So I may take the risk of bad weather for just a weekend. Worst it can happen is I will go to the art and history museums instead Laughing

Massimo

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: Bucharest. Need help on id

Gun 3° is indeed a 75 mm Krupp model 1904

Massimo

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

Hi Massimo,
It is off topic but I see you make photos in RAW format. What program do you use to adjust/correct the photos.

I use NEF since I have I Nikon camera (still experimenting with the settings).

regards,
Lesley

Massimo_Foti wrote:

I'll post about the AFVs soon. But it will take time, I have well over 1500 shots, and they are still in RAW format, waiting to be post-processed. On top of that I have:

- 900 RAWs from my last visit to Full
- 400 RAWs from a recent visit to Morges
- 2000+ RAWS from my visit to Saumur
- 150 RAWs from a friend's wedding

Tomorrow I will be in Emmen (Luzern) for an airshow, so I expect another 1000 shots or the like. Well, it may take a while to get everything done Smile

Massimo

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:07 am Post subject: Re: Bucharest. Need help on id

L.Delsing wrote:

It is off topic but I see you make photos in RAW format.

Early this year I made some major (Sinsheim) and minor (Thun SHP) mistakes shooting JPEGs with wrong white-balance. I promised myself it will never happen again, so I moved to RAW. While it requires a lot of extra post-processing efforts, and extra storage space, I can say for sure it lend to better quality and increase the amount of "keeper" shots.

All in all, among the steps I took to improve the quality of my pictures, moving to RAW is having the strongest impact, even more than buying better lenses, and much more than an upgraded camera body.

L.Delsing wrote:

What program do you use to adjust/correct the photos.

I use Adobe Photoshop, even if it's complicated, expensive and somewhat overkilling. I only know the features I need for my very own purposes, and I keep using it since I get a free copy (due to my professional activities). Without the free copy I guess I would consider PhotoShop Elements or one among the two below:

Lightroom, it now has "Photoshop" in its name, due to marketing reasons, but it's a completely different beast, designed for digital photos from the very beginning:
www.adobe.com/products...lightroom/

Some friends of mine love this:
www.dxo.com/intl/photo

I encourage to test both, they have trial versions and the retail price isn't insane.

Massimo

PS Maybe we should discuss this and similar topics on the main AFV News forum

Tanklord · Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Bucharest. Need help on id

Massimo_Foti wrote:

Gun 3° is indeed a 75 mm Krupp model 1904

Massimo

Is it me, or does the gun barrel look like it exploded by the breech?

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:20 am Post subject: Re: Bucharest. Need help on id

Tanklord wrote:

Is it me, or does the gun barrel look like it exploded by the breech?

Sure it did.

Massimo

Doug_Kibbey · Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Bucharest. Need help on id

Tanklord wrote:

Massimo_Foti wrote:

Gun 3° is indeed a 75 mm Krupp model 1904

Massimo

Is it me, or does the gun barrel look like it exploded by the breech?

It's one of two or three such guns there. I have detail shots of those. In the one Massimo posted, it's certain that several casualties would have resulted.

Here are the previous threads on Bucharest (one exceedes 20,000 views, an AFV DG record!)

Views of that gun are available on page 4, I believe

www.com-central.net/in...t+military

www.com-central.net/in...t+military

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: Bucharest. Need help on id

I have only another shot or two of this specific gun, but quite a bunch of another of the same model, including the ammo trailer.

I am developing a special interest for pre-WWI 75 mm guns from Krupp. I've seen the 1903 model used by Switzerland (updated in 1940 with split trails), the 1902 from Turkey (seen it in Italy. One is in Belgrade too) and the 1906 model used by the Italian Army (who went with a Deport design in 1911); and now this. AFAIK model 1904 was used in Bulgaria as well.

Massimo

Doug_Kibbey · Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: Bucharest. Need help on id

Another Bucharest gun behaving badly....

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:07 am Post subject: Re: Bucharest. Need help on id

L.Delsing wrote:

Do you have a list what you have seen/spotted there (tanks, APC's etc)

I've just posted a list on the main forum, pictures are coming along too:
www.com-central.net/in...;start=120

Massimo

Mircea87 · Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:39 pm Post subject: Re: Bucharest. Need help on id

2nd gun is probably of russian origin (so it was used after 1916), a side photo would help. Searched my sources, this caliber was very rare, although Romania used a lot of different calibers during the war.