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Ordnance Museum Data Plates #9: Italian
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:36 pm
Post subject: Ordnance Museum Data Plates #9: Italian
M13 - two different data plates, I only have records for one?



img.photobucket.com/al...es/M13.jpg



img.photobucket.com/al.../SPA-2.jpg

I need some help with model identification for the following:

Fiat Ansaldo



img.photobucket.com/al...nsaldo.jpg

Lancia



img.photobucket.com/al...Lancia.jpg

SABIF



img.photobucket.com/al.../SABIF.jpg

SPA



img.photobucket.com/al.../SPA-1.jpg
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:44 pm
Post subject: Re: Ordnance Museum Data Plates #9: Italian
Second shot, the SPA plate belongs to an L6 (the Semovente 47/32 I guess), other plate in the same picture belongs to a second M13.

Thid shot, yet another M13... But dating back to 1942 most likely an M14 or M15.

Last shot, the SPA plate belongs to an AB 40.

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Massimo,
Which number should be considered the "serial number" or equivalent?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:07 am
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"Matricola" = serial number
"Targa" = registration number

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:19 am
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Hi friends,

I think this

SABIF



come from a boxcar or some sort of railway stuff.

SABIF was a brake manufacturer and "freno continuo", aka continuous brakes, is a system that used hoses connecting all the wagons of a train, so the driver could apply or release the brakes with a single valve in the locomotive commonly used worldwide.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:30 am
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Here are the numbers was able to pull off the plates by increasing the size of the original images (Photobucket shrunk them some).

M13 Matricola/SN 07006, Targa/Reg 4445

Second set of plates
Semovente da 47/32 su L6/40 (L-6-3) Chassis 54902
M13 Matricola/SN 01387, Targa/Reg 3521

Fiat-Ansaldo M13 Matricola/SN 03023, Targa/Reg ineligible

SPA plate ABM40 Chassis 47808

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I am reading the last book from Daniele Gugliemi. He says M14's plates still used M13 as name. Nothing is mentioned about M15's plates.

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