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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:26 am
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A new section on Surviving Panzers website was created:

All nationalities World War 2 tracked and unarmored vehicles

the.shadock.free.fr/unarmored.html

For now with registers of:
- RSO
- Lorraine 37L
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:39 am
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Soviet tracked vehicles:

STZ-5-NATI with "Katusha" Novomoskovsk, Tula Oblast (Russia)
pl.wikipedia.org/w/ind...0817162947

?-12 - Yaroslavl, Roslavskaya Oblast (Russia)
pomnite-nas.ru/mshow.p...s_OID=2555

Are this the only survived vehicles ?
Are there any half-tracks (ZIS-42, GAZ-60) survivors?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:03 pm
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French tracked vehicles:

Citroen-Kegresse militar versions (not civil use)

Citroen-Kegresse C6 - Royal Militray Museum, Brussels (Belgium)
www.flickr.com/photos/...197798169/

Citroen Kegresse C4 P17 - Auto Museum, Monte Carlo, Monaco
www.flickr.com/photos/...711577155/

Citroen Kegresse C6 - Private collection (France)
tracks.forumactif.com/...-t1923.htm

Citroen Kegresse C6 - Adam Rudnicki collection (Poland)
img122.imageshack.us/i...6mts1.jpg/

Citroen-Kegresse C6 - unknown location
www.flickr.com/photos/...343486532/


Somua MCL

Somua MCL - Musée des Blindés, Saumur (France)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...mur_01.jpg


Unic P107

Unic P107 - Musée des Blindés, Saumur (France)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...Saumur.jpg

Unic P107 – Victory Park at Poklonnaya Gora, Moscow (Russia)
svsm.org/gallery/Victo...m/IMGP1546
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:06 pm
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Big register of civil and other versions of Citroen-Kegresse

kegresse.dk/images/01_10_2009.pdf
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:26 pm
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The only survivng T28 Willy's half-tracked Jeep.

www.milweb.net/features/jeep.php

Ford V8 Maultier
[img]www.img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/Panzerserra/Ford%203000%20Maultier/maultier02.jpg[img]
(Victory Museum?)
(Also here! www.com-central.net/in...p;t=12245)


Sdkfz4, unknown location.
reocities.com/Athens/A...racks.html


Ford V8

Opel (Victory Museum, so same as the "Ford V8" above?)

odkrywca.pl/opel-mault...03953.html


Sinsheim (probably one for the Sdkfz 11 file?)


One of Wheatcroft's SWS (Armoured?)
www.pietvanhees.nl/sws/chassis.htm


(Red-crossitis strikes!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:15 pm
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Regarding Maultiers, please bear in mind today quite a few have been copied from regular 4x2 trucks added with the running gear from a Universal Carrier.

The Maultier track system was patterned on the Carden-Lloyd system. Now, was the first Maultier converted using parts from Bren/Scout/Universal Carriers or Vickers Light Tanks captured at Dunkirk? The Vickers Light Tanks used two double-wheel bogies too...

The Germans must have manufactured parts for the conversion of trucks as of the Ford V3000S Maultier alone some 14,000 were built, with another 4,000 or so of the Opel Blitz variant. Much larger numbers than could be catered for by cannibalisation of captured British AFVs.

Also, there are engineering differences in track, sprocket and road wheels (see picture - source). For example, a Maultier road wheel is much wider and of entirely different construction than the standard Universal Carrier road wheel - not a surprise when you know Pz.I/II track was used (instead of Carrier track like popular belief has it). Possibly only the bogie casting was copied, although I wonder if that would pass a gründlich scrutiny by German engineers - remember the answer the German Army got after asking German industry to copy the Soviet T34 tank?
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And what about this?



Does it qualify as Maultier Laughing

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Certainly a Mule!
I'd guess if it was cobbled together before May 8th 1945, then it qualifies.
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well it is an interesting combination

could be something for P-O repro list Mr. Green

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And what about this?



Does it qualify as Maultier Laughing

Massimo


I would call it a Maultier-White, or rather a Mercedes-White...

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- Pzkpfw-e
I'd guess if it was cobbled together before May 8th 1945, then it qualifies.


That's the main question, but I don't have an aswer, neither its owner has

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:55 pm
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Any army used them ?


Linn 4-28 10 Ton Half-Track from 1930
www.flickr.com/photos/...370813523/

Linn from 1927
www.flickr.com/photos/...695596929/

Linn
www.flickr.com/photos/...671551063/
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Any "YA-12" still surviving?
Here's a link ro a Russian web page 2leep.com/bar.php?url=.../ja-12.htm that shows a pair of B&W pictures of one mounted on a concrete plynth, with a block of flats in the background.
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Any "YA-12" still surviving?
Here's a link ro a Russian web page 2leep.com/bar.php?url=.../ja-12.htm that shows a pair of B&W pictures of one mounted on a concrete plynth, with a block of flats in the background.


That are old photos of the YA-12 from Yaroslavl, Roslavskaya Oblast (Russia)
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Second YA-12 - Estonia ?


deadmobil.narod.ru/estonia.html
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