±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 274
Total: 274
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Home
05: Community Forums
06: Home
07: Home
08: Community Forums
09: Member Screenshots
10: Home
11: Community Forums
12: Photo Gallery
13: Photo Gallery
14: Photo Gallery
15: Community Forums
16: Photo Gallery
17: Community Forums
18: Photo Gallery
19: Community Forums
20: Photo Gallery
21: Photo Gallery
22: Home
23: Home
24: Member Screenshots
25: Home
26: Downloads
27: Home
28: Member Screenshots
29: Community Forums
30: Home
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Photo Gallery
34: Photo Gallery
35: Downloads
36: Photo Gallery
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: News Archive
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Home
44: Home
45: Home
46: Community Forums
47: Photo Gallery
48: News Archive
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Photo Gallery
52: Community Forums
53: Home
54: CPGlang
55: Member Screenshots
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Photo Gallery
61: Home
62: Community Forums
63: Home
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Photo Gallery
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Photo Gallery
71: Home
72: Home
73: Community Forums
74: Home
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Home
81: Community Forums
82: Home
83: Photo Gallery
84: Community Forums
85: CPGlang
86: Home
87: Photo Gallery
88: Photo Gallery
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: News Archive
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Photo Gallery
95: News
96: Photo Gallery
97: News
98: Home
99: Photo Gallery
100: Home
101: Home
102: Downloads
103: Downloads
104: Photo Gallery
105: Home
106: CPGlang
107: Photo Gallery
108: Home
109: Downloads
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Downloads
113: Community Forums
114: Home
115: Downloads
116: Community Forums
117: Home
118: Community Forums
119: Photo Gallery
120: Photo Gallery
121: Community Forums
122: Home
123: Home
124: Photo Gallery
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Home
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: CPGlang
134: CPGlang
135: Community Forums
136: Member Screenshots
137: Community Forums
138: Home
139: CPGlang
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Member Screenshots
143: Community Forums
144: Member Screenshots
145: Member Screenshots
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Home
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Statistics
153: Photo Gallery
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Downloads
157: Community Forums
158: Home
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Home
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Downloads
167: CPGlang
168: Photo Gallery
169: Downloads
170: Downloads
171: Photo Gallery
172: Member Screenshots
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: Community Forums
176: Home
177: Member Screenshots
178: Community Forums
179: Home
180: Community Forums
181: Home
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: CPGlang
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Photo Gallery
192: Community Forums
193: Home
194: Community Forums
195: Member Screenshots
196: Downloads
197: Photo Gallery
198: Community Forums
199: Home
200: Community Forums
201: Member Screenshots
202: CPGlang
203: Home
204: Home
205: Photo Gallery
206: Photo Gallery
207: CPGlang
208: Photo Gallery
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Photo Gallery
213: Community Forums
214: CPGlang
215: Community Forums
216: Photo Gallery
217: Community Forums
218: Home
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: CPGlang
222: CPGlang
223: Home
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Home
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Home
231: CPGlang
232: Community Forums
233: CPGlang
234: Home
235: CPGlang
236: Community Forums
237: Home
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Community Forums
242: Downloads
243: Community Forums
244: News Archive
245: CPGlang
246: Community Forums
247: Photo Gallery
248: Photo Gallery
249: Community Forums
250: Home
251: Home
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Home
258: Community Forums
259: Home
260: Downloads
261: Downloads
262: Home
263: Community Forums
264: Photo Gallery
265: Downloads
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Photo Gallery
269: CPGlang
270: Home
271: Photo Gallery
272: Community Forums
273: Home
274: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Romanian Military Museum: Shermies, MkIV's, an' stuff....
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... , 15, 16, 17  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:39 pm
Post subject: Re: Romanian Military Museum: Shermies, MkIV's, an' stuff....

- Massimo_Foti
Glad to be of help Doug.
Do you have artillery with missing labels as well? I am publishing my artillery shots too, it just takes time to post-process them all. I covered 80+ different artillery artifacts, and I missed many more.

Massimo


You can be sure I do. I also have a number of "group shots" will multiple pieces in the frame as I typically had to ration my photo card contents to be sure I had room for as much stuff as I hoped to get on any one visit.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:19 am
Post subject: Re: Romanian Military Museum: Shermies, MkIV's, an' stuff....

I am done with the artillery shots on Flickr. I hope it gives a feeling of the diverse equipment available in the Museum:
www.flickr.com/photos/...595717860/

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
Mircea87
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 04, 2010
Posts: 26
Location: Constanta, Romania
PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:24 pm
Post subject: Re: Romanian Military Museum: Shermies, MkIV's, an' stuff....

- Massimo_Foti
I am done with the artillery shots on Flickr. I hope it gives a feeling of the diverse equipment available in the Museum:
www.flickr.com/photos/...595717860/

Massimo


Very nice pictures! I also visited the museum this year, in September. Unfortunately, I only had about 1 hour to take some photos with my cheap camera and my pics are not that great. Proof of my visit Razz :


The museum received a new armored fighting vehicle recently: the SU-100 tank destroyer. Pictures here: 6dorobanti.ro/forum/Ya...009746/4#4 . It has the original Romanian markings on it. I always wondered why the museum did not have a SU-100, especially since the Military Balance 2010 mentions that 25 units are still in use by the Romanian Army!

PS. what happened to the Malaxa UE chenillette? I'm sure we had one at the museum.
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Romanian Military Museum: Shermies, MkIV's, an' stuff....

- Mircea87
The museum received a new armored fighting vehicle recently: the SU-100 tank destroyer. Pictures here: 6dorobanti.ro/forum/Ya...009746/4#4 . It has the original Romanian markings on it. I always wondered why the museum did not have a SU-100, especially since the Military Balance 2010 mentions that 25 units are still in use by the Romanian Army!

PS. what happened to the Malaxa UE chenillette? I'm sure we had one at the museum.


Hello,

great news there !! hope that these 25 units will be preserved, and not scrapped.

Pierre-Olivier

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Mircea87
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 04, 2010
Posts: 26
Location: Constanta, Romania
PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:03 am
Post subject: Re: Romanian Military Museum: Shermies, MkIV's, an' stuff....

- the_shadock


Hello,

great news there !! hope that these 25 units will be preserved, and not scrapped.

Pierre-Olivier


I hope we won't make the same mistake like we did in 1954, when all german equipment was scrapped. Sad

I also want to share an interesting piece of equipment with you: a turret of the "Vanatorul de Care R-35 (transformat)" tank: 6dorobanti.ro/forum/Ya...1281029511 . This was a Romanian Renault R-35 tank fitted with a Soviet 45mm AT gun. The person who took the photos says that the turret is located in Slovakia. It was found in the valley of the river Hron (I don't know if the spelling is ok). The turret was probably blown off by a German 75 mm gun, which entered just below the gun mantlet (clearly visible in the fourth row of pics). The catastrophic second explosion blew the rear hatch and the cupola off. The hull is missing; IMHO, it's either buried somewhere or was towed and scrapped. The photo on the fifth row clearly shows a horizontal, white (now yellow-ish?) paint that tells us this was a command tank. The last row of pictures is with the interior of the turret, where 11 (?) ammo racks are located. The VdC R35(transformat) had fewer ammo because the 45 mm projectile was bigger than the 37 mm round. This must be the last piece of this very rare tank. Only 30 were transformed at Leonida Works by a team lead by lt.col. Constantin Ghiulai (he was also involved in the TACAM projects, T1 armored tractor and the Maresal tank destroyer program). All tanks were lost on the Western Front. You can see o photo of this tank here.

PS. I think the Malaxa UE carrier is somewhere inside a different building of National Military Museum, that's why I haven't seen it in September.
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:50 am
Post subject: Re: Romanian Military Museum: Shermies, MkIV's, an' stuff...

I love this thread. I've often considered whittling down my photobucket stash, but can't bring myself to do it. This and the AFV register threads are the two top views on the DG. I've learned a lot from the follow-on posts.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 6:44 am
Post subject: Re: Romanian Military Museum: Shermies, MkIV's, an' stuff....

- Mircea87
PS. I think the Malaxa UE carrier is somewhere inside a different building of National Military Museum, that's why I haven't seen it in September.


During my visit one building was closed

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
Mircea87
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 04, 2010
Posts: 26
Location: Constanta, Romania
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:56 am
Post subject: Re: Romanian Military Museum: Shermies, MkIV's, an' stuff...

Pictures with the SU-100 SPGs of the Romanian Army awaiting their final fate in a military base (I think they're going to be scrapped Sad ) :





Source: Cartula
If you can contact a museum and suggest they approach the Romanian Army for a donation, I suggest you do it soon, they will be scrapped.

The NMM in Bucharest will probably receive a T-72M tank or a TR-125 prototype soon. The army has 28 T-72M tanks for sale. Since 30 were initially bought and one was destroyed in a friendly fire incident during the 1989 Revolution, this means one will probably be delivered to NMM. Another rumour is that a TR-125 will be sent to the museum. We'll see.

Also, some pics from a small museum of a military unit in Dej:

dejeni.info/muzeul-militar/
Back to top
View user's profile
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:48 am
Post subject: Re: Romanian Military Museum: Shermies, MkIV's, an' stuff...

For me that would be stupid to scrapped all SU-100.

For example the Military Museum in Dej don't have a SU-100.

It would be the best if the Romanian Army give the SU-100 to Military Museum in Bucharest.
It could exchange them with other museums which don't have a SU-100 (there is many of them).
Back to top
View user's profile
C_Sherman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 590

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:52 pm
Post subject: Re: Romanian Military Museum: Shermies, MkIV's, an' stuff...

- bialy-r
For me that would be stupid to scrapped all SU-100.

For example the Military Museum in Dej don't have a SU-100.

It would be the best if the Romanian Army give the SU-100 to Military Museum in Bucharest.
It could exchange them with other museums which don't have a SU-100 (there is many of them).


Hi,

If anyone here has the contacts and/or the language skills needed to tell the museums about it, I suggest that you do so.

The Army is unlikely to spontaneously offer those vehicles to a museum, and especially those in other countries. Selling them for scrap is a cash transaction, and thus infinitely more attractive to those with fungible ethics and a 'counting disorder'.

Chuck

_________________
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it
will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
-Herm Albright

Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
longo213
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 16, 2010
Posts: 20

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Romanian Military Museum: Shermies, MkIV's, an' stuff....

[quote="Mircea87"]
- the_shadock
I also want to share an interesting piece of equipment with you: a turret of the "Vanatorul de Care R-35 (transformat)" tank: 6dorobanti.ro/forum/Ya...1281029511 . This was a Romanian Renault R-35 tank fitted with a Soviet 45mm AT gun. The person who took the photos says that the turret is located in Slovakia. It was found in the valley of the river Hron (I don't know if the spelling is ok). The turret was probably blown off by a German 75 mm gun, which entered just below the gun mantlet (clearly visible in the fourth row of pics). The catastrophic second explosion blew the rear hatch and the cupola off. The hull is missing; IMHO, it's either buried somewhere or was towed and scrapped. The photo on the fifth row clearly shows a horizontal, white (now yellow-ish?) paint that tells us this was a command tank. The last row of pictures is with the interior of the turret, where 11 (?) ammo racks are located. The VdC R35(transformat) had fewer ammo because the 45 mm projectile was bigger than the 37 mm round. This must be the last piece of this very rare tank. Only 30 were transformed at Leonida Works by a team lead by lt.col. Constantin Ghiulai (he was also involved in the TACAM projects, T1 armored tractor and the Maresal tank destroyer program). All tanks were lost on the Western Front. You can see o photo of this tank here

I remember a conversation couple of months ago with Pierre-Olivier (the_shaddock) when I told him about the turret so he could put it to the respective Surviving Panzers list. I was also speculating about the fate of the tank (and it's crew) and had the same idea bout "jack in the box" kind of explosion.
Is there any English written publication about Romanian army which took a big (but unappreciated) part of liberating Slovakia? Or Romanian tankers in particular?
Back to top
View user's profile
Mircea87
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 04, 2010
Posts: 26
Location: Constanta, Romania
PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:42 am
Post subject: Re: Romanian Military Museum: Shermies, MkIV's, an' stuff...

- C_Sherman


Hi,

If anyone here has the contacts and/or the language skills needed to tell the museums about it, I suggest that you do so.

The Army is unlikely to spontaneously offer those vehicles to a museum, and especially those in other countries. Selling them for scrap is a cash transaction, and thus infinitely more attractive to those with fungible ethics and a 'counting disorder'.

Chuck


The cost of sending a 32 ton vehicle from Bucharest to Dej by railway is several times the value of that SPG being sold to scrap. In 2011 the army had the lowest budget since 1989. It's all a question of money. Plus, the defense industry in Romania is artificially kept alive with jobs such as these (scrapping old equipment and ammo). So the Army will never send those vehicles because it lacks the money to send them and the museums are not going to ask for them because they lack the funds to transport, storage and maintain them. If a foreign museum asks for a donation, the Army is more likely to give them.

Look what happens if you have the right amount of cash in Romania, you get your own shiny SU-100 to attract tourists:
Link

- longo213

I remember a conversation couple of months ago with Pierre-Olivier (the_shaddock) when I told him about the turret so he could put it to the respective Surviving Panzers list. I was also speculating about the fate of the tank (and it's crew) and had the same idea bout "jack in the box" kind of explosion.
Is there any English written publication about Romanian army which took a big (but unappreciated) part of liberating Slovakia? Or Romanian tankers in particular?


About the actions is Czechoslovakia and Austria, the only book I recommend is "Third axis, fourth ally" by Mark Axworthy (several pages on the subject..). About Romanian tankers in particular, I don't know any book with a decent amount of info. In fact, there are few books even in Romanian about this subject.
Back to top
View user's profile
Mircea87
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 04, 2010
Posts: 26
Location: Constanta, Romania
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:38 pm
Post subject: Re: Romanian Military Museum: Shermies, MkIV's, an' stuff...

Romanian Military Museum rusty TACAM R-2:
commons.wikimedia.org/...811%29.JPG
vs. Arsenal Park in Orastie, a private venture:
www.cartula.ro/forum/t...ntry130633
Back to top
View user's profile
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Romanian Military Museum: Shermies, MkIV's, an' stuff...

- Mircea87
Arsenal Park in Orastie, a private venture:
www.cartula.ro/forum/t...ntry130633


Two SU-100
Two WPT-34
ATS-59
AT-S
AT-L
T-55
T-34
SPK-5 (T-34 based crane)
BTR-50
BWP-2
BRDM-2
TAB-72
unknown tracked crane


Very nice collection.
Back to top
View user's profile
Mircea87
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 04, 2010
Posts: 26
Location: Constanta, Romania
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:32 pm
Post subject: Re: Romanian Military Museum: Shermies, MkIV's, an' stuff...

Yes, even if the vehicles are not painted historically, they're still in a better shape that the ones found at NMM in Bucharest. I think they're two BTR-50s, one has the burning plane crashed on it. The TAB-72 is called a TAB-71M in Romanian service. The unknown tracked crane is a HT-125 on T-34 chassis. The BWP-2 I think is actually a MLI-84, because it has the machine gun above the left (back) door and a firing port on the right (back) door.
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 16 of 17
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... , 15, 16, 17  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum