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Panther chassis, hull and turret numbers - where?
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Koluchiy
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:04 am
Post subject: Panther chassis, hull and turret numbers - where?
Hello.

I need to know exactly, where chassis, hull and turret numbers are located (stamped) at the Panther tank?
The question do not concerns data tables - they are not present.
Numbers should be stamped at the armor plates at some positions.

We have found one number at the left side from the driver' place, but we don't know is this a hull number or chassis number.

Thank you in advance.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:17 am
Post subject: Re: Panther chassis, hull and turret numbers - where?
I don't know were I found the text quoted below But maybe it possible to use.

It is the location of numbers on a Tiger ad not a Panther, but again, maybe it is useful for your specific case.

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Bare turret number:
Turret (turm) will be stamped with a 25xxxx number on the top of the roof armour facing the sky, and usually have codes "bwn" or "amp" alongside the number. These codes stand for "Krupp" and "Dortmund-Hoerder Huttenverein", both steel fabrication companies who will have rolled or cast the steel for the turret and welded together the basic empty turret. "Krupp" tends to be on early Tiger and "DHH" on the later production models.
Finished turret serial number:
The empty turret is then delivered to "Wegmann" who will complete the turret 100%, they will then stamp another 25xxxx serial number and their ordnance code "cvd" inside the turret and also fix a data plate to the inside of the turret near to the toothed turret ring. This data plate will also carry their name, the 25xxxx turret assembly number, a date and their code "cvd". The completed turret is then delivered to "Henschel".
Bare hull number:
Hull (Wanne) will be stamped with a 25xxxx number on the roof of the hull, usually near the drivers hatch opening facing the sky and have codes "bwn" or "amp" stamped alongside also.
Finished Hull serial:
The empty hull is then delivered to "Henschel" who complete the entire vehicle, "Henschel" will stamp a 25xxxx number on the inside of the hull on a steel T-stanchion that is on the drivers side, alongside this 25xxxx number will also be their code "dkr", a two digit date (44 for example) and a Waffenamt. This is the real chassis number and metal on which all this is stamped is usually left unpainted and outlined in red paint. (Approximately 60mm x 50mm)
Finished Hull/Turret serial:
All this "Henschel" chassis information including the "Wegmann" turret number is also repeated on a data plate that is fixed to the drivers instrument panel.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:38 am
Post subject: Re: Panther chassis, hull and turret numbers - where?
Lesley, you posting that reminded me I had seen a similar webpage - found it:

www.panzerbasics.com/i...erials.htm

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:52 pm
Post subject: Re: Panther chassis, hull and turret numbers - where?
Yes, that is the site.

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