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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:00 am
Post subject: Preserved Tanks in the USA

I am creating this thread to put together my updates on this project in one place rather than across multiple threads.


Useful example links for searching PreservedTanks.com:

Preserved Tanks in the USA

Tank Factories and Upgrade Facilities in the USA

All Preserved Tank Related Locations in the USA

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:33 am
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in the USA

I began by putting online the information and photographs from the manuscript of my unpublished "Preserved Armoured Vehicles: U.S.A." book from c. 1984, starting with APG in 2008-9:

APG: Museum
APG: Maryland Boulevard ('Mile of Tanks')
APG: Solitary Vehicles


Those lists are now somewhat out of date so I will return to update them. Then I began Fort Knox this year:

Fort Knox: Pattom Museum of Cavalry and Armor


While still adding vehicles to that list I began updating ones already online with help and photos from Don and other members of this forum. While working on the M47s there I began various parallel projects, including:

Preserved M47 Tanks
Camp Shelby (with Joe D's photos)
Fort Lewis (with C Sherman's photos)
Chiriaco Summit (with C Sherman's photos)
Fort Irwin (ongoing)


I have now returned to completing the Fort Knox section. The following entries have been added this week:

UID1446: M26 Pershing
UID1447: M26A1 Pershing
UID1448: M46 Patton
UID1449: T23
UID1450: M7B1
UID1451: M7B2
UID1452: M4A3 (museum)
UID1453: M4A3 (on post)
UID1454: M4A3E8 (Keyes Park)
UID1455: M4A3E8 (running order)
UID1456: M4A3E8 (storage)
UID1457: M4A3E8 (Brooks Field)
UID1458: M4A3E8 (Gaffey Hall)
UID1459: M4A3E8 (Brave Rifles Regiment Avenue)
UID1460: M4A3E8 (Cherry Hall)
UID1461: XM1 Abrams

That brings me up to date with the information and photo's I had. I will now begin the process of updating the whole Fort Knox section with the latest additions and changes posted by Dontos and Garry Redmon, including all those related to BRAC. I'll post updates in this thread as I progress.


Meanwhile, to give background to the Fort Knox M3A3 tank (and also M31B2 and M32A1B1 TRVs) I have written up another factory:

Baldwin Locomotive Works

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:50 pm
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in the USA

Gentlemen.
Some time ago there was a Swedish APC "Hagglunds PBV 302" at Aberdeen Proving Ground Museum. A while ago someone said that the APC had been moved to another location. Anyone who knows the location of that vehicle today?

www.army-guide.com/eng...t1028.html
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:14 pm
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I'm pretty certain its the same one at the Military Museum of Southern New England in Danbury, CT - which has a number of other ex Ordnance Museum vehicles.

www.williammaloney.com.../index.htm

At any rate, it has a US Army RN painted on the side...

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:50 pm
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Yes, thats the one.
Thank you very much for your help.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:55 pm
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I have other photo's of it, if they would be of interest.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:19 pm
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That brings me up to date with the information and photo's I had. I will now begin the process of updating the whole Fort Knox section with the latest additions and changes posted by Dontos and Garry Redmon, including all those related to BRAC. I'll post updates in this thread as I progress.


This it turning out to be a huge job. I took the day off work today, and have only managed about half of it. Anyway, here's the new BRAC page:

BRAC Transfer, Fort Knox


This work has included adding the following new entries, vehicles that weren't at FK when I visited in '83, using Dontos' photos:

UID1462: M1A1 inside
UID1463: M1A1 outside
UID1464: Challenger
UID1465: T-72
UID1466: Te-Ke


I have updated a bunch more vehicle entries with recent photos from Dontos, so now the new Fort Benning site is starting to come together quite well:

National Armor and Cavalry Museum, Fort Benning


I'll keep working on the BRAC updates over the next week or so.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:50 pm
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Trevor

That is a lot of work. It looks good.

One note though, in the BRAC Transfer link you have a caption of the Sd Kfz 223 being loaded. its misidentified as a Sd Kfz 222.

The destinations to Ft Benning are as follows:
'Sand Hill' (uncovered storage area)
'Harmony Church' (static displays vic Armor Center ?)
'TMP' (overhead covered & secure facility)

The operational / museum displays are supposed to all go to the TMP. These will be joined by several new aquisitions (ie WWI Mark VIII, T34/76, Panther ausf A, ....from APG)

Keep up the good work
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:41 pm
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Thanks Don. SdKfz 223 fixed. I've added a Transportation Motor Pool (TMP) location and I'll assign operational and museum vehicles to it as I update them. I'll do the same for Harmony Church as I get more info.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:30 pm
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A productive weekend - on Saturday I wrote up 'Buster' and a added bunch of other vehicles at Fort Knox:

UID 1467: M60A1 'Buster'

UID 1468: M60A2

UID 1469: S- Tank

UID 1470: M728

UID 1471: M60


To give some background to Buster, I have added an entry in my list of USA tank facilities for MCLB Albany where it was upgraded:

MCLB Albany


Yesterday I continued the M60 theme:

UID 1472: M60A1 6053

UID 1473: M60A3 3621A

UID 1474: M60A1 4284

UID 1475: M60A3 2394A

UID 1476: M60A3 3854A

UID 1477: M60A1 8587

UID 1478: M60A3 2004A

UID 1479: M60A1 8679

Some of these have since moved to Benning, so I'll update them together once I have them all in the database. My grateful thanks to Don and Joe for letting me rifle through their albums for pictures.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:20 pm
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The remaining M60s are now done:


UID 1480: M60A1 9349 (Copple Center)

UID 1481: M60A3 836 (RMP)

UID 1482: M60A3 837 (Crecy Hall)

UID 1483: M60A1 9357 (Keyes Park)

UID 1484: M60A3 2278A (MATES)
(also UID 1485: M110A2 (MATES))

UID 1486: M60A1 5106 (Museum)

UID 1487: M60A1 6346 (Quinn Hall)

UID 1488: M60A3 2448A (Sadowski Field House)

UID 1489: M60A1 3078 (Skidgel Hall)

UID 1490: M60A1 6241 (Wilson Road)

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:30 pm
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I had a day's holiday yesterday and returned to writing up Fort Knox/BRAC/Benning to try and make some progress on it, while continuing to work on Preserved Tanks in Italy in parallel. My thanks to Don for all photos (except Mark for one of the T-55).

New entries:

UID 1545: M51 Sherman, Benning
UID 1546: Type 69, Benning
UID 1547: T-55 Enigma, Benning
UID 1548: Churchill Crocodile, Benning
UID 1549: Comet, Benning


Updated entries (moved from FK to FB, updated text, new photos):

UID 308: Leopard, Benning
UID 1173: Centurion, Benning
UID 1179: T-34-85, Benning
UID 1180: T-54, Benning
UID 1220: M48A1, Benning
UID 1221: M48, Benning
UID 1222: M48A5, Benning
UID 1223: M48A5E1, Benning
UID 1274: T29E3, Benning
UID 1292: M51, Benning
UID 1464: Challenger, Benning
UID 1465: T-72, Benning
UID 1471: M60, Benning

If Don and Garry - and anyone else with patience and an interest - could review these, it would be much appreciated.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:50 am
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Further progress yesterday.

New entries:

UID 1550: FT (Afghan), Benning
UID 1551: LVT(A)1, Benning
UID 1552: M551, Fort Knox
UID 1553: FT (Afghan), Benning


Updated entries (moved from FK to FB, updated text, new photos from Don and Geoff):

UID 71: Panther II, Benning
UID 220: Tiger II, Benning
UID 1174: Mark V*, Benning
UID 1178: T-34-85, Benning
UID 1283: Ford 3-ton, Benning
UID 1284: M3A3 Lee, Benning
UID 1296: M2A3, Benning
UID 1451: M7B2, Benning

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:53 pm
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Trevor

The photos you have for UID 1553 are not an afghan FT17 but the previously existing FT17 which was on display in the museum for many years.

The photos are following it being swapped with the Afghan FT17 in the museum, the original tank was transferred to Carlyle Barracks. Those photos are in 2009 when they loaded it up and shipped it out.

FYI: The second Afghan FT17 is pretty much untouched and still tarped up in RMP, without a turret mounted.

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Trevor, FYI, there are at least 3 surviving T23s including the ones from APG.

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