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An interesting note on the Churchill VII (the one disguised a Crocodile). It was the last Churchill ever built. It came directly from the factory to the Museum. There is a brass plate on the tank commemorating this (info from the Museum)

Massimo

Here is it:



Massimo

Crusader III



Massimo

Matilda II, a rare view from above. Note for P-O, it's a runner:



Massimo

Hi folks,

question about the archer

How many different versions are there

Because I have comperred the picture of the one at Bovington and the one at Overloon and the rear looks different

The one at Bovington has a leafspring assembly for the towing pintle at the rear
Where the towing pintle is about the same height, as where the hull top joins the lower hull

And the one at Overloon has 2 rectangular boxes for lights (or something like that) and the towing pintle welded to the lower hull

Michel

The photos in this thread have a quality like those from a fashion shoot only better in some ways because the steel is real. I feel a need to bow to photo master Foti. I have been to Littlefield's several times and I must see Bovington before I die!

Thanks for the kind words. In the last two years I invested time and money to improve both my skills and equipment. Glad the results show up.
Yet there is still room for improvements, I keep refining my skills.

I never been to Littlefield myself. Hope they will turn the collection into a real museum one day, so that the day I will visit it I will be able to spend a few days

Massimo

- Michel_Krauss

Because I have comperred the picture of the one at Bovington and the one at Overloon and the rear looks different

Maybe this could help:



Massimo

- Massimo_Foti

Crusader III

Two crosses on the front plate on this. Similar to the ones seen on the Cruiser

Massimo

- Massimo_Foti

- Massimo_Foti

Crusader III

Two crosses on the front plate on this. Similar to the ones seen on the Cruiser

Massimo

well, there are also several crosses on the Churchill Mk VII, which "came directly from the factory". And I think that nobody died in it on the road from the factory to the museum..



P-O

- Massimo_Foti

- Michel_Krauss

Because I have comperred the picture of the one at Bovington and the one at Overloon and the rear looks different

Maybe this could help:



Massimo

.... uhm ... no
Besides the picture above is showing the front of the vehicle


I "borrowed" your photo to make it clear Massimo
The top picture is the vehicle at Bovington, the lower one the vehicle at Overloon


yes I know the picture is to large, I will try to avoid it next time

I have been searching the web and about all (old) picture's of Archer's I can find have a rear like the one located at Overloon

The one that could have been the same as the Bovington version is the one located at Latrun Israel
This vehicle has some brackets remaining at the hull, however there is no tow pintle at the lower hull
www.flickr.com/photos/...120125531/

So that's the reason of my question, I alway's presumed there was only 1 version

Michel

- the_shadock

well, there are also several crosses on the Churchill Mk VII, which "came directly from the factory". And I think that nobody died in it on the road from the factory to the museum..

Right

Massimo

- Michel_Krauss

.... uhm ... no
Besides the picture above is showing the front of the vehicle

I know it's the front.
I wasn't clear, I wondered if there were other differences

Massimo

The crosses are probably personal tributes laid on Nov 11th, Remembrance Sunday in the UK, to honour fallen comrades in all conflicts. These may not be related to the individual tank but more likely to comrades from a Regiment that the tank has been painted to represent or who fought in a similar vehicle.

Tim,

Massimo

Maybe, some Pz.IV (interior ) photos?