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Hi folks,

made an visit to the "Rolling Steel" event 2010 of Keep them rolling
And took some picture's of some interresting vehicle's
Amongst others there where:

The T17E1 Staghound
This is the same vehicle as in the book "The Staghound" of Mr D. Doyle, pages 76 through 80


Among the other vehicle's there was also this big British truck
Has some one an idea what it is
I think it is an Leyland Hippo, however I'm not sure


Michel

- Michel_Krauss

Found an site about the restoration of the Overloon Sherman monument

www.shermantankoverloo...=frontpage

Mostly picture's so no problem reading for most people

Michel

I wonder if they had as much trouble removing their road wheels as we did removing Coba King's?

A picture of the M51 in the NLD. It seems they removed some numbers/markings. Anyone who knows what they removed (castingnumbers of serials?)
www.xs4all.nl/~jwdeboe...C05050.jpg

Regards,
Lesley

Found an site about the restoration of the Overloon Sherman monument

www.shermantankoverloo...=frontpage

Mostly picture's so no problem reading for most people

Michel

okay, made an visit to the OVerloon museum today and made some enquiries about missing items of the collection

- first the Staghound; the vehicle is under going restauration at the moment and is 90% finished. The vehicle is completly restorted both internal and external. The ony item that could not be restored was getting the engine back in running order
It will be on display next year

- second the LVT 4, that was mentioned in the LVT thread; the vehicle has been exchanged an couple of years ago. The new onwner is an museum located in Zeeland, The Netherlands. There are at least 5 museum around Zeeland that focus at the Allied landings in Zeeland in 1944. I don't know which of the various museum has the LVT. Perhaps it is still being restored and not open for the public yet

- the vision blocks of the M4A4 Crab, P-O I will send you an mail with the picture's;

- the serial number of the M4A4 that is being loaded on to the transporter, no luck there
No serial number visible at the towing eye's, and I checked them all to be sure.
From my point of view, it appears there has been an number at the right front towing eye, something with 2.
However this could also be an trick of the light mounted above the vehicle

Michel

It seems the NL army has at least one BMP-2 in the inventory as OPFOR vehicle. It participated in an exercise last week. I have no more details.

Many years ago there were two former East German BMP-2s at Amersfoort.

If this is one of those two??

Because of my holiday, did some touring around an part of the country

I visited, amongst others, the Serman V (M4A4) Crab at Westkapelle

It is not going very good with the vehicle, the location by the sea is not very good for metal items
The hull and it's parts still look good because of the paint, however the tracks are not that good
If they don't get an good clean-up and paint job, they will fall off in an couple of years



I never noticed before, however at the second bogie at the left side the road wheels are different


And to make it more complicated these 2 wheels are also not the same



Michel

Small update about the Army Cars collection
I knew about some of the vehicle's already, however it's confirmed now

all most all big tracked AFV's have been sold, total of 14 vehicle's
They where all sold in 2 batches

Batch 1 was bought through an Dutch firm / collector and holds:
- Jagdpanzer Kanone JPz4-2
- Jagdpanzer Rakete Jaguar 2
- M48A5 Patton II medium gun tank
- 2x M88
- 3x M113 C&V former dutch army
- PRTL-CA1 Cheetah KU-80-09
- PT-76 ligth tank amphibious
- Pz68 MBT RN 77716
- last vehicle not known

Batch 2 is the M16 MGMC
This vehicle went to an Belgium collector, after removal of the 4x MG and replacing it with dummy items

Because of this sale there is almost nothing left at the museum to show

Michel

I couldn't have said it better Michel
About the M3 Stuart light tanks ,there were 4 of them
and the owner told me that he has 3 more storage locations at the same industrial area where this one is located.
So that could maybe the ones on the website

Walter

Staman International Trading what vehicles it have in it's collection ?

Walter made an visit at Staman 15-07-2010 and could have an walk around

He send me the picture's of it, again Walter thank you very very much

Here is an list of the stuf he has in storage, some of it is in reasonble condition and just needs restoration, other vehicle's need complete rebuild.

If something needs an complete rebuild, I put it in the description:

- Britsh Saracen APC,
- British Firefly Vc (no external fittings, no track)
- British Firefly Ic (hull, no external fittings, no tracks)
- British Firefly turret (not sure if it belonged to the hull)
- British Staghound Mk III, the one with crusader turret (barrel missing, all outside main automotive parts missing, inside ??)
- Staghound turret, this was modified for an fixed defence position. Most likely have been part of the IJssel defence line and fitted with an MG
- M3 light tank, at least 3 all from South America
- Humber armored car, former Dutch army
- OT-810
- M3 half track, at least 5 in various condition from just cleaning to wreckage
- M3 scout car
- British Abbot SPH, is the storage yard work horse
- AMX-13, at least 3 there
- SU-100, gate guard can be found in street view
- several artillery pieces
- several military vehicle's (CMP truck and a big British WW2 truck)
- a lot of other bits and pieces that is not recognizable

However the vehicle's that can be found on the website of Staman, are not among the picture's.
Also the storage locations that can be found at the website are not among the picture's, so there is more

Besides the storage, there is also an privately owned M4 Sherman completly restored
And there is an vehicle storage somewhere around Luxemburg, that holds other big armored MV's

So just an small collection

Michel

Staman International Trading what vehicles it have in it's collection ?

- Michel_Krauss

The vehicle has been a shooting range target at Oldebroek.
The tank is still in reasonable condition and will be restored in the coming months.

www.defensie.nl/_syste...e=701%20KB

The Sherman will be placed at the Museumplein in Overloon besides the already existing monument for the US 7th AD

seems to be an M4A1(75) with no Direct Vision but small hatches, similar to the one located at Bayeux, in France.
Maurice Donckers told me that there were still several Sherman Fireflies on Dutch fire ranges, it would be really nice to get a set of photos like the one that has been published for the Groot Schietveld Range, Brasschaat (Belgium).

Pierre-Olivier

For those that want to know, the glaring difference between the SU-100 and SU-85 is the cupola on the right hand side of the upper hull. Then there's the occasional SU-85M but that's another story.


- Jeff

For the people interested in Overloon, an newsflash from the 2nd of july 2010

The Dutch ministry of defence has transferred a Sherman tank to the municipality Boxmeer (Overloon is part of this). The Sherman will be placed in Overloon as a monument to the 7th U.S. Armoured Division

The vehicle has been a shooting range target at Oldebroek.
The tank is still in reasonable condition and will be restored in the coming months.

www.defensie.nl/_syste...e=701%20KB

The Sherman will be placed at the Museumplein in Overloon besides the already existing monument for the US 7th AD

original text (Dutch only)
www.defensie.nl/landma...r_Overloon

Michel

- the_shadock

it's undoubtely an SU-100, I didn't know that one, thanks

untill yesterday I did not know myself

Michel