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Doug_Kibbey

- SFC_Jeff_Button

they would use filter them to some other use, rather than the museum, thats my take.

That won't happen. I've got Neil's number, will call after you two talk.

SFC_Jeff_Button

I'm not exactly sure, I will ask Mr. Morrison tomorrow. I'm tempted to make a big issue about this and see what the regiment thinks about it. I'm sure I'll be on their doo-doo list but thats fine. Neil and myself are meeting CWO4 McCutcheon tomorrow at 9am at the airfield to check out the Cobra, I'll ask him then. I have a feeling the donations would go through the regiment and they would use filter them to some other use, rather than the museum, thats my take.

Doug_Kibbey

Jeff...
How, exactly, would one go about making a financial donation to the museum?
Doug

SFC_Jeff_Button

Neil,
I was informed today by Neil Morrison, the 11th ACR museum director, that the 11th ACR will no longer support or assist the museum anymore. They still want their name plastered every where but, and this is not an exageration, they will not even give the museum reems of paper for its copy machine, or pay for the fuel that goes in the M2 Half Track that Doug drove. Neil at the museum and the other two gentlemen there had to spend $40 out of their own pockets for gas in the half-track. I had to take them copy paper from my office. Seems the 11th wants the museum to work for them when ever the need arrises, ie; host change of commands, tours, etc, but wont lift a finger to help the museum. So as you can see, getting the old 2/11 Sherman to Fort Irwin from APG, simply wont happen. Quite sad that a unit with such history, wont do anything to preserve it. Just another reason why I'll be glad to leave Fort Irwin / NTC.

bsmart

Doug that's picture didlin' is great!! You can't see the Crusader in the background that clearly in person!! It has been sitting in that dark corner for at least 5 years!

Doug_Kibbey

Coolness, Neil! (If anyone ever needed a premium account, it'd be you! Laughing

(Because he's the number one contributor of bitchin' pics to the AFV News DG...)

Joe,
Yep...I noticed the CBSS bulge, which is why I figured it was a "real" A2. Your explanation would make sense.

Joe_D

Doug,
I believe the M60A2 was a tank might have been used by the school house at Aberdeen to train mechanics. The brackets were probably made for a ladder much like the pilots. The hull is a late model with the CBSS bulge and heavy lifting eyes. Just a guess.

Joe D

Neil_Baumgardner

- Doug_Kibbey

Yeah, it takes an expert to move a bunch of sliders around randomly until it looks better!

How's about you download mine and repost...then I can free up some much needed "photobucket" space (The trip with Jeff may bust my account!)

Easy enough - I've got a premium account.

Neil

Doug_Kibbey

- Neil_Baumgardner

- Doug_Kibbey

Unfortunately, it can lead to some wierd lighting. Some pictures got "greened" out - look at Slo Poke for example.

Neil

I felt your pain, Neil.

Many thanks Doug - I havent quite gotten around to trying my hand at photoshop adjustments - but you seem to be an expert!

Neil

Yeah, it takes an expert to move a bunch of sliders around randomly until it looks better! Laughing

How's about you download mine and repost...then I can free up some much needed "photobucket" space (The trip with Jeff may bust my account!)

Neil_Baumgardner

- Doug_Kibbey

Unfortunately, it can lead to some wierd lighting. Some pictures got "greened" out - look at Slo Poke for example.

Neil

I felt your pain, Neil.

Many thanks Doug - I havent quite gotten around to trying my hand at photoshop adjustments - but you seem to be an expert!

Neil

Doug_Kibbey · Last edited by Doug_Kibbey on Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:04 am; edited 1 time in total

Unfortunately, it can lead to some wierd lighting. Some pictures got "greened" out - look at Slo Poke for example.

Neil

I felt your pain, Neil.
(pic taken down, now, since Neil has it)

Neil_Baumgardner

- bsmart

Folks, I want to sing Neils praises. I was there when he took the Matilda pics. I couldn't see as much detail by looking in the hatch as Neil has in the pictures!

Me either! Thats the flash working! I often take pics like that "blind" but can adjust based on the review feature on the digital camera.

And those pictures were made with a handheld 'ctick the camera in the hatch' method. And the warehouse doesn't seem to be lit anywhere near as well as Neil makes it appear.

Yeah, thats why my trusty tripod is so important. I can slow down the shutter speed to allow more light - but you need a stable base or else it gets fuzy. Lowest shutter speed I like to do by hand, bracing as much as possible, is about 1/60 second. For the shots inside the warehouse, it was at 1/4 second shutter speed.

Unfortunately, it can lead to some wierd lighting. Some pictures got "greened" out - look at Slo Poke for example.

Neil Thanks for all the photo's I know I like them and I can see the subjects on a regular basis. For the folks who can't get to Aberdeen the pictures are the next best thing. Of course you don't get the inciteful commentary that you get on my guided tours So there is still a reason to make the trip.

No problem. I enjoyed the tour as well - highly recommended!

Neil

bsmart

Folks, I want to sing Neils praises. I was there when he took the Matilda pics. I couldn't see as much detail by looking in the hatch as Neil has in the pictures! And those pictures were made with a handheld 'ctick the camera in the hatch' method. And the warehouse doesn't seem to be lit anywhere near as well as Neil makes it appear.

Neil Thanks for all the photo's I know I like them and I can see the subjects on a regular basis. For the folks who can't get to Aberdeen the pictures are the next best thing. Of course you don't get the inciteful commentary that you get on my guided tours Smile

So there is still a reason to make the trip.

Neil_Baumgardner

BTW, the Christie's Liberty V-12 engine looks to be in relatively good condition (at least the front of it does). If there's one thing at the Ordnance Museum I'd like to see running it would probably be the Christie - if just because it could move! Supposedly up to 70mph on wheels?!

Neil

Neil_Baumgardner

As promised, some interior pics of the museum's Matilda.

Of course the Ordnance Museum's Matilda has a fairly interesting history. It was lost to the Germans in a battle at Sidi Rezag-Halfaya Pass in November 1941. It was re-marked by the Germans and used as a pill box at the same pass until recaptured by the British after the battle of El Alemein in October 1942. It was then sent to the US as part of reverse Lend-Lease scrap shipments in 1943 and diverted by COL Jarrett to the museum in 1944.

Now some pics from inside the museum warehouse. Sorry Don, the Ontos is gone. I assume its back at Quantico now - the new National Museum of the US Marine Corps is set to open on November 10th.

The long-missing M1920 75mm gun motor carriage has re-appeared in the warehouse after having gone through the refurb facility:

Some more pics of the T3 Christie Tornado:

The Christie's engine:

The T1E2 Cunningham light tank

The M1922E Mk X 4.7" Gun Motor Carriage (bad lighting)

Neil

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