±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 209
Total: 209
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: CPGlang
02: Home
03: Community Forums
04: Home
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Home
08: Home
09: Community Forums
10: Home
11: Community Forums
12: Home
13: Home
14: Home
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Home
18: Community Forums
19: Home
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: Statistics
23: CPGlang
24: Community Forums
25: Home
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Home
29: Community Forums
30: CPGlang
31: Community Forums
32: Home
33: Member Screenshots
34: Community Forums
35: Downloads
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Member Screenshots
40: Community Forums
41: Downloads
42: Home
43: Home
44: Community Forums
45: CPGlang
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: CPGlang
50: Statistics
51: Home
52: Home
53: Community Forums
54: Photo Gallery
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Downloads
58: Community Forums
59: Home
60: Community Forums
61: Home
62: Community Forums
63: Statistics
64: Home
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Home
68: Photo Gallery
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Home
72: Home
73: Statistics
74: Home
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: CPGlang
83: Home
84: CPGlang
85: Home
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Photo Gallery
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Home
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Home
103: Community Forums
104: Downloads
105: Community Forums
106: CPGlang
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Home
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Downloads
122: Community Forums
123: News Archive
124: Community Forums
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Home
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Home
131: Community Forums
132: Home
133: Community Forums
134: Home
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Photo Gallery
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Home
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Home
147: Home
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: News Archive
153: Community Forums
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Community Forums
157: Downloads
158: Community Forums
159: Home
160: Downloads
161: Member Screenshots
162: Community Forums
163: Home
164: Member Screenshots
165: Home
166: Home
167: Community Forums
168: Home
169: Community Forums
170: News
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: News
174: Community Forums
175: Home
176: CPGlang
177: Community Forums
178: Member Screenshots
179: Home
180: Home
181: Community Forums
182: Statistics
183: Community Forums
184: Statistics
185: Home
186: Your Account
187: Downloads
188: Member Screenshots
189: Home
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Photo Gallery
193: Statistics
194: Photo Gallery
195: Community Forums
196: Photo Gallery
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Home
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Downloads
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Member Screenshots
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Home
209: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Richmond Times-Dispatch: Army plans museum at Fort Lee
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:59 pm
Post subject: Richmond Times-Dispatch: Army plans museum at Fort Lee

www.inrich.com/cva/ric...-0115.html
Army plans museum at Fort Lee
A $31 million Ordnance Museum to join women's, quartermaster collections

Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 - 12:09 AM Updated: 03:01 AM

By PETER BACQUE
TIMES-DISPATCH STAFF WRITER

Fort Lee is getting a new, $31 million Army museum.

The Army's Ordnance Museum will open in 2011, giving Fort Lee one of the service's largest museum complexes.

The Prince George County post already is home to the Quartermaster Museum and the Army Women's Museum.

About 49,000 people visited the Ordnance Museum, now at Aberdeen Proving Ground, Md., in the past year, a number that easily could double at Fort Lee with its easy access to Interstates 95 and 295, the museum's director said.

The museum will bring to Fort Lee about 175 tanks and cannons from the Army's "field of steel" collection of heavy military weaponry.

"It's the largest move of an Army

museum in the history of the Army Museum System," said Joe Rainer, the Ordnance Museum's director.

"Some of the pieces we're going to display are so large," Rainer said, "we're going to have to move them down after we've poured the concrete floor and then build the walls around them."

Rainer singled out the M-65 "Atomic Cannon" as one such gargantuan museum piece. The field gun is 84 long, more than 16 feet wide and 12 feet tall -- and it weighs 83.3 tons.

"It's going to be great to have three wonderful, really outstanding, museums in one location," said Pat Sigle, a retired Army officer and supporter of the Army Women's Museum. "The local communities will see a real plus."

That's what area officials are hoping.

"We get a lot of out-of-town military retirees," said Becky McDonough, executive vice president of the Hopewell-Prince George Chamber of Commerce. "This will be one more reason for them to have us be a stayover destination . . . which is very good for our tourism business."

The Army's Ordnance Center and School is coming to Fort Lee from Aberdeen as part of the 2005 Base Realignment and Closure Commission's reordering of U.S. military installations.

The ordnance branch is responsible for developing and maintaining the Army's weapons systems.

The Army expects to award the contract for the Ordnance Museum's construction in fall 2009, begin work in late winter 2010, and have the museum ready by May 2011, Rainer said.

A 95,000-square foot, high-bay building will allow the museum to display its armored vehicles and artillery pieces indoors for the first time in a half century, Rainer said.

The new museum, which will be behind the existing Quartermaster Museum, also will provide 20,000 square feet of office and artifacts-storage space.

However, the Ordnance Museum will need to raise about $500,000 from private donations to help create exhibits within the otherwise bare-bones building.

About 66,000 people visited Lee's Quartermaster and Army Women's museums last year, according to the installation.

By comparison, the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts in Richmond had attendance of 108,400 last year.
Back to top
View user's profile
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2067
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:10 pm
Post subject: Re: Richmond Times-Dispatch: Army plans museum at Fort Lee

The museum will bring to Fort Lee about 175 tanks and cannons from the Army's "field of steel" collection of heavy military weaponry.


That's all Shocked ??? There's at least 150 AFV's. I imagine with all artillery the number is closer to 250.

So what happens to the stuff that isn't moved?

Hopefully not another scrap drive Neutral .

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:07 pm
Post subject: Re: Richmond Times-Dispatch: Army plans museum at Fort Lee

www.progress-index.com...534909.txt

Plans in place to relocate Ordnance Museum to Fort Lee
BY F.M. WIGGINS
STAFF WRITER
The Progress-Index
Published: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:22 PM EST

FORT LEE — The U.S. Army Ordnance Museum will be part of the third largest museum complex on the East Coast when it’s placed at Fort Lee in September 2011.

Fort Lee is already home to two museums; the United States Army Quartermaster Museum and the United States Army Women’s Museum.

But plans are already in the works to bring the impressive 12,500-piece collection of the Ordnance Museum to Fort Lee.

"It’s going to be a huge logistical move," said Dr. Joe Rainer, director of the Ordnance Museum, currently located in Aberdeen Proving Ground, Md. "We have over 170 tanks and artillery pieces."

He said several of those will present special challenges , including the famous World War II K5 German artillery piece commonly known as "Anzio Annie" and a 16 seacoast defense gun.

"The 16 seacoast defense gun weighs 400,000 lbs. alone," Rainer said.

He said some pieces, such as the seacoast defense gun, would be disassembled, put on railcars, and then rebuilt in place on Fort Lee. A majority of pieces will be brought to Fort Lee by rail.

"I can only see a few being trucked on trailers," he said. "Fortunately the site we’ll be building on is close to a rail spur." Rainer added that the museum’s site in Maryland is also across the street from a rail spur which will allow for easy loading of some pieces from the museum.

But none of the pieces will be moved until the concrete for the museum floor has been poured. Rainer said that with the exception of the seacoast defense gun, most of the museum’s larger pieces will be moving from an outdoor display area to an indoor display space of around 95,000 square feet.

"We’ll also have small arms on display," Rainer said. "This will really allow us to preserve for at least a few more generations some of these tanks, which it’s tragic to say, haven’t been maintained."

Rainer said that for some of the older tanks with much thinner armor, preservation at times has come down to replacing armor panels instead of protecting what’s there.

"They’ve literally rusted away in some cases," Rainer said. "For us, it’s exciting because we’re going to get to start the museum from the ground up."

Rainer isn’t the only one getting excited. Ron Bingham, museum technician at the U.S. Army Women’s Museum said he’s excited as well.

"It’s a win-win situation for the post and the entire area," Bingham said.

One of his hobbies is military modeling and table-top war games. As part of that hobby, he’s often made trips to Aberdeen Proving Ground to see their ordnance collection.

"People from all over the world go to see their collection. Now they’ll be coming here to see it," Bingham said.

He added that once it comes to join the other two museums on post, it will be the third largest museum complex on the East Coast.

"It’s going to be really impressive," Bingham said.
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum