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Neil_Baumgardner

These are all left over from the 2nd ACR Museum

BMP-1

T-72 SN K12BT4249

MT-LB -based variant? ID help needed!

BRDM-2

What's the story behind this Trabant? Any ideas?

Neil

palic · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 172

Neil, that is undoubtly BMP-1 with low pressure GROM gun and 9M14M Malyutka rail over the barrel...
SNAR-10 should have rotating turret so I am slightly afraid MT-LB based vehicle has been misidentified too.

Neil_Baumgardner

Oh right, sorry, typo / "brainfart" on the BMP-1...

But I thought it was the MT-LBu that has a larger rotating turret at the rear, instead of the SNAR-10 radar vehicle?

Neil

palic · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 172

Hope we did not make a mistake, more pics here: forum.valka.cz/viewtop...or/t/17690

Neil_Baumgardner

No, you're probably right... This is another MT-LB -based vehicle, not a SNAR-10 or an MT-LBu...

ID help anyone?

Neil

Joe_D

Neil,

Just a guess on the "Traby", but look at the tag. "2ACR-11-89".

2nd ACR was Southern border duty between East and West Germany and Czechoslovakia. 11- 89 was when the wall came down and the East Germans flooded across. Many came in their Trabants and then abandoned them. Many friends of mine said they littered the road sides for months. I'll bet this one was saved by the regiment as a souvenir from "When the Wall came down". Shame it's out doors. Most of the body panels are made of a sawdust type composition that falls apart after a while.

A2_Prius · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jan 27, 2006 Posts: 112

Perhaps the Trabant is a stage prop from U2's "Zoo Station" tour?

RhinoQ

That is really cool to see the Iraqi vehicles at Fort Lewis, I have pictures of them at Fort Polk when 2cav still had their mus down there...polk had a nice collection when 2 cav was there along with the lonely 5 id vehicle park...

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

It seems the Fort Lewis T-72 was modified by the Iraqi army. At first I thought it was a T-72A with the 8 KMT mounts but comparing it with a photo of a T-72A there were some differences.

AFAIK it is a T-72M early hull (4 ribs in front of the driver, no 16mm plate attached), but the turret should then have handholds and no smoke grenade launchers)

The turret looks like a M late or M1 variant. Did the Iraqi army some swapping of hulls/turret or is a good turret put on a good hull and send back to the USA?

JiriTintera

- Neil_Baumgardner

These are all left over from the 2nd ACR Museum

MT-LB -based variant? ID help needed!

What's the story behind this Trabant? Any ideas?

Neil

Dear Neil,
transporter MT-LB with protrusion in the rear fuselage was modified ambulance for Iraq (guarantee possible 9 out of ten). The superstructure was built for air-conditioning equipment - see ventilation holes.

P. S.
Trabant not Czechoslovak license plate.