±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 192
Total: 192
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Photo Gallery
02: Your Account
03: News Archive
04: Member Screenshots
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Home
08: Community Forums
09: Home
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Photo Gallery
17: CPGlang
18: Community Forums
19: Home
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: Home
23: Home
24: Home
25: Community Forums
26: Home
27: Home
28: Community Forums
29: Home
30: Home
31: Photo Gallery
32: Community Forums
33: Home
34: Home
35: Community Forums
36: Home
37: Home
38: Community Forums
39: Your Account
40: Community Forums
41: Home
42: Member Screenshots
43: Community Forums
44: Home
45: Community Forums
46: Home
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Photo Gallery
50: Home
51: Home
52: Home
53: Photo Gallery
54: Home
55: Photo Gallery
56: Home
57: Home
58: Community Forums
59: CPGlang
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Home
63: Community Forums
64: Home
65: Community Forums
66: Downloads
67: Home
68: Community Forums
69: Home
70: Photo Gallery
71: Community Forums
72: Home
73: Community Forums
74: Home
75: Photo Gallery
76: Community Forums
77: Home
78: Community Forums
79: Downloads
80: Home
81: Home
82: Community Forums
83: CPGlang
84: Home
85: Community Forums
86: Home
87: Downloads
88: Community Forums
89: Home
90: Photo Gallery
91: Home
92: Home
93: Photo Gallery
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Home
97: Community Forums
98: CPGlang
99: Home
100: Home
101: Photo Gallery
102: Community Forums
103: News Archive
104: Home
105: Photo Gallery
106: Photo Gallery
107: Home
108: Photo Gallery
109: Home
110: Home
111: Community Forums
112: CPGlang
113: Community Forums
114: Home
115: Home
116: Home
117: Community Forums
118: Home
119: Photo Gallery
120: Community Forums
121: CPGlang
122: Home
123: CPGlang
124: Home
125: Home
126: Home
127: Home
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Home
132: Home
133: Community Forums
134: Home
135: Member Screenshots
136: Home
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Home
140: Statistics
141: Community Forums
142: Downloads
143: Home
144: Home
145: Home
146: Photo Gallery
147: Home
148: Photo Gallery
149: Home
150: Home
151: Home
152: Home
153: Home
154: Home
155: Home
156: Home
157: Photo Gallery
158: Community Forums
159: Downloads
160: CPGlang
161: Home
162: Home
163: Community Forums
164: Home
165: Home
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Home
169: Home
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Home
174: Member Screenshots
175: Community Forums
176: Home
177: Community Forums
178: Home
179: Home
180: Community Forums
181: Member Screenshots
182: Community Forums
183: Photo Gallery
184: Community Forums
185: Home
186: Community Forums
187: Statistics
188: Home
189: Downloads
190: CPGlang
191: Home
192: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
M48A2C at Aberdeen, MD VFW.
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Rick_Eshleman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 26, 2011
Posts: 909
Location: Lewes, Delaware, USA
PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:50 pm
Post subject: M48A2C at Aberdeen, MD VFW.

I took a few photos of this today. Rick


Last edited by Rick_Eshleman on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:40 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail AIM Address Photo Gallery
Rick_Eshleman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 26, 2011
Posts: 909
Location: Lewes, Delaware, USA
PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:56 pm
Post subject: Re: M48A2C at Aberdeen, MD VFW.

Construction equipment nearby made this a fun shoot. The ladder does work OK for high angle shots. Here's what's left of the modification plate on rear, and heavy paint makes SN obscurred. It's like the Proving Ground items, somewhat neglected. Rick


Last edited by Rick_Eshleman on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:41 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail AIM Address Photo Gallery
MarkHolloway
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2006
Posts: 2054
Location: Beatty, Nevada
PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:11 pm
Post subject: Re: M48A2 at Aberdeen, MD VFW.

M48A2C?
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Rick_Eshleman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 26, 2011
Posts: 909
Location: Lewes, Delaware, USA
PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:01 pm
Post subject: Re: M48A2C at Aberdeen, MD VFW.

Mark,
I would say that this is the M48A2C. Just based on the lack of the tension idler, which is the only visable external component to ID it. The rangefinder would be M17C in this version along with other small changes in fire control layout. It's strange how adding a "C" on this variant doesn't symbolize "non-ballistic"! I photographed all visable markings on this for the record. The paint was just heavy enough to obscure Serial numbers. This is not an ex-USMC vehicle (like someone scrawled on it) but US Army 9B1158 RN. The later type track is also an add-on.
References- M48 Patton in Action page 18, (C) 1984 Jim Mesko.
and US Military Tracked Vehicles, (C) 1992 Fred Crismon.

Rick


Last edited by Rick_Eshleman on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:41 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail AIM Address Photo Gallery
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2067
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:44 pm
Post subject: Re: M48A2 at Aberdeen, MD VFW.

Yes it is Mark,

Really nice survivor, wish they could get a muzzle and bore evacuator for her. Bet she's a former Aberdeen tank. Low Army RN makes her an early A2 but converted to A2C standards (If it's actual, seems to be). Really interesting that someone spray painted M48A2 USMC all over her. Probably some one in that VFW is a Marine and is biased. Be like marking an M60A3 as a Marine tank. To my knowledge the Marines went from M48A1 to M48A3 when they converted theirs. That's why only the Army had M67A1 flame tanks, while the USMC had M67 and then converted to M67A2. That mod plate is for the final drive and when and where it was rebuilt last. Wish she was closer to me, not that many M48A2's around to inspect in my neck of the woods since Knox sent all their stuff to Georgia. Thanks for sharing Rick.

_________________
Joe_D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Rick_Eshleman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 26, 2011
Posts: 909
Location: Lewes, Delaware, USA
PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:44 pm
Post subject: Re: M48A2C at Aberdeen, MD VFW.

Joe D,
Thanks for your input, I've corrected the title. I was going to add some 1986 photos of a M48A2 behind the fence at Aberdeen, but they were too large! Rick
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail AIM Address Photo Gallery
MarkHolloway
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2006
Posts: 2054
Location: Beatty, Nevada
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:49 pm
Post subject: Re: M48A2C at Aberdeen, MD VFW.

When I worked on M48A5's at Fort Irwin the #6 roadarm housings still had a hole for the tensioner. It was covered with a plate.

_________________
"TUMBLEWEED"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Rick_Eshleman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 26, 2011
Posts: 909
Location: Lewes, Delaware, USA
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:22 pm
Post subject: Re: M48A2C at Aberdeen, MD VFW.

M48A2 in 1986
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail AIM Address Photo Gallery
Rick_Eshleman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 26, 2011
Posts: 909
Location: Lewes, Delaware, USA
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:24 pm
Post subject: Re: M48A2C at Aberdeen, MD VFW.

M48A2 from TM.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail AIM Address Photo Gallery
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2067
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:01 pm
Post subject: Re: M48A2C at Aberdeen, MD VFW.

Rick,

You have just help me get concrete proof of a group of tanks prior location without realizing it. In the background you can see a couple of really tired old M60A2's. Notice they have blades on them, something no A2 unit had or were equipped with. They were used in some sort of breaching/mobility experiment and were outfitted with the blade kits for that reason. Notice one doesn't have a gun. Those tanks eventually ended up at Anniston's scrap yard. One then found it's way to the museum in Anderson IN and became a subject of much discussion amongst A2 tankers on another site, since none could see how it was possible to mount the Blade kit with the CBSS system or even why based on their mission. I had knowledge of the experiment but had no real proof they were ever at Aberdeen until now. Here is a picture of the same tank at Anniston's bone yard. One ended up becoming the first ROBAT vehicle before they started using M60A3 hulls.

M60A2 Dozer

Picture came off the old tanxheaven site.

_________________
Joe_D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:38 pm
Post subject: Re: M48A2 at Aberdeen, MD VFW.

- Joe_D
Yes it is Mark,

Wish she was closer to me, not that many M48A2's around to inspect in my neck of the woods since Knox sent all their stuff to Georgia. Thanks for sharing Rick.


Well if you ever get up this way we got a few 48s and a bunch of 60s for you around here! including a low number 'Training Use Only' M60.

The back bedroom is here whenever you want to come up, can even loan you a vehicle if you fly up! Welcome

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2067
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:19 pm
Post subject: Re: M48A2C at Aberdeen, MD VFW.

Hopefully Bob I can take you up on your gracious offer,

Like Knox though, a major reason for coming your way was the collection at Aberdeen, which now is gone. Seems like the timing of all these re alignments to the museums, I mean training aids, were an evil plot designed to coincide with my retirement, effectively shutting the door in my face for a while now that I have time to actually visit them. Both Knox and Aberdeen had those dream collections I always wanted unfettered access to, but never had the time while in to establish the contacts or even visit. Irony was I was at Fort Knox for 3 years in the 90's. My thoughts were that they'll be there when I retire, never imagined the School House would move, seemed blasphemous to even consider it as a Tanker. Next time I head up to Hampton (maybe 2013) I plan on driving up your way to check out some of those unique tanks in your neck of the woods. Thanks again for the offer.

_________________
Joe_D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum