±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 182
Total: 182
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Home
03: Home
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Home
07: Downloads
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Photo Gallery
14: Home
15: Home
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Home
20: Home
21: Home
22: Home
23: Downloads
24: Community Forums
25: Home
26: LinkToUs
27: Home
28: Community Forums
29: Home
30: Photo Gallery
31: Community Forums
32: Member Screenshots
33: Member Screenshots
34: Community Forums
35: Community Forums
36: Home
37: Home
38: Photo Gallery
39: Home
40: Home
41: Home
42: Your Account
43: Home
44: Photo Gallery
45: Community Forums
46: Downloads
47: Home
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Downloads
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Home
54: Your Account
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Home
61: Home
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Home
65: Home
66: Community Forums
67: Home
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Home
72: Home
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Home
77: Community Forums
78: Home
79: Home
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Photo Gallery
84: Community Forums
85: Home
86: Home
87: Community Forums
88: Home
89: Community Forums
90: Home
91: Home
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Home
96: Home
97: Home
98: Your Account
99: Community Forums
100: Home
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Home
104: Home
105: Member Screenshots
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Home
109: Community Forums
110: Home
111: Downloads
112: LinkToUs
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Downloads
116: Community Forums
117: Home
118: Home
119: Photo Gallery
120: Community Forums
121: Home
122: Downloads
123: Home
124: Home
125: Community Forums
126: Member Screenshots
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Home
130: Home
131: Home
132: Home
133: Home
134: Community Forums
135: Photo Gallery
136: Home
137: Home
138: Home
139: Community Forums
140: Home
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Home
145: Home
146: News Archive
147: Community Forums
148: Home
149: Home
150: Home
151: Home
152: Home
153: Home
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Your Account
157: Home
158: Photo Gallery
159: Photo Gallery
160: Home
161: Home
162: Member Screenshots
163: Photo Gallery
164: Community Forums
165: Downloads
166: Home
167: News
168: Statistics
169: Home
170: Photo Gallery
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: News Archive
174: Photo Gallery
175: Member Screenshots
176: Home
177: Community Forums
178: Home
179: Community Forums
180: Home
181: Community Forums
182: Downloads

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
M3A4 Discovered
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:37 pm
Post subject: M3A4 Discovered

Just when you thought Ft Knox was a boring place to be around....

We discovered an M3A4 Medium Tank. Original paint, although a bit 'faded', but the Registration # is 3029031, SN is 4373. Its nickname was 'Gosh Darn'.

It was found without the multi bank engine & the transmission housing is gone, and there is no turret, but it is in pretty good condition.

Images to follow....
Thought y'all might be interested
Regards
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Rick_Eshleman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 26, 2011
Posts: 909
Location: Lewes, Delaware, USA
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:47 pm
Post subject: Re: M3A4 Discovered

Way to Go Don! Now where could the turret be? I wish I could go through Aberdeen Ranges and Ft. Indiantown Gap "Valley" (An A-10 practice Range)
to see what's left there.
Hope you can find some more historical vehicles there. regards, Rick
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail AIM Address Photo Gallery
TerryStibal
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 01, 2006
Posts: 51
Location: Pensacola FL
PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:00 am
Post subject: Re: M3A4 Discovered

As part of the base closure process, each facility was to be evaluated in detail for potential pollution problem and stuff like lead contamination. When I used to work for OSHA, I knew that the agency occasionally interfaced with the industrial hygienists who worked for DOD on these projects, but I could never find one who would part with a copy of the report.

The assessments were done in some detail. along the lines of the stuff done by Colt Denfield out in the Pacific, but I don't think that any of their findings were ever published like his were. If they had been, you would have photos of each damaged or abandoned vehicle, along with a pinpointed location on the range.

I don't think that DOD realizes what they had with the old range relics. Most that I saw at Knox were old personnel carriers, but there was the occasional obsolete tank thrown into the mix. And, on the ranges out west, a good portion of the Japanese vehicles from World War II were dumped. The Air Force was inaccurate enough in a couple of cases so that the running Type 95 at the Oregon Military Museum was the result.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:06 am
Post subject: Re: M3A4 Discovered

We have located a number of M3 turrets that include the commander coupla MG mount....

This is the style that would have originally been mounted on the M3A4.

The really neat fact is both the tank and several of the turrets are completely void of impact marks. Being that they have been range targets for over 50 years and have survived this long, is a miracle.

Regards
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
ajmac
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 14, 2011
Posts: 37

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:00 am
Post subject: Re: M3A4 Discovered

I am not too familiar with the range closures in th US, is the range you mention being sold off?

_________________
Alastair McMurray
Lincoln, UK
..........
Loyd Carrier - Under Restoration
Back to top
View user's profile
Kurt_Laughlin
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 577

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:47 am
Post subject: Re: M3A4 Discovered

Great stuff Don!

Did the hull have side doors? My guess is no.

KL
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:04 pm
Post subject: Re: M3A4 Discovered

Not being too familiar with the various variants of M3, we just got some walk around info and moved on. It was after the fact that we realized exactly what it was. The answer is no there are no side doors on the hull.

Regards
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:50 pm
Post subject: Re: M3A4 Discovered

...Stupid photobucket.... can't seem to log in, but...

Garry has some photos posted:







Regards
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:52 am
Post subject: Re: M3A4 Discovered

Is there any plan to recover it and to restore it? If you mention the existence of turrets and cupolas, I would say "yes"... or at last you have something in mind.

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:27 am
Post subject: Re: M3A4 Discovered

We have some ideas for a recovery, but have to get obvious approvals first... With everything that is going on, it may not be anytime soon, but we are documenting locations for future 'projects'...

Here are a couple of the M3 Turrets...




Regards
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
recceboy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 22, 2006
Posts: 172
Location: Edmonton,Alberta
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:14 am
Post subject: Re: M3A4 Discovered

Well that looks nice. If you need a hand to pull them out, when they give the go a head, and if you need some Canuck help. Would love to be able to help out...........(not willing to get lost in the woods and find another great find either....................) LOL

Anthony
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:25 am
Post subject: Re: M3A4 Discovered

- recceboy
Well that looks nice. If you need a hand to pull them out, when they give the go a head, and if you need some Canuck help. Would love to be able to help out...........(not willing to get lost in the woods and find another great find either....................) LOL

Anthony


I'll keep you in mind.

I kept 'dumpster diving' into discovered hulls or tanks, checking them out....This is a shot of me inside the upside down M32 ARV....Thought it was an M4A1 at first, then I found the winch spool and mechanisms..



Regards
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum