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AFV 'Grave Yard'
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.

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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject: AFV 'Grave Yard'
This is the closest image of this remote area. Boxed area # 5 is the Ontos dumping ground, if I am not mistaken. I have been told by several sources that there are as many as 74, M50A1's at this site. Other marked sites include mules, M151 series 'jeeps', Mighty mites, SP artillery of various types, Amtracs, and other obsolete, out of service USMC vehicles. FYI Don

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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:47 am
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Hmm....okay. 5, 6 & 7 are Ontos, 3 is a mix of USMC M-37's, M151's and M422A1's. 4 are DUKW's, 1 Army and two USMC. 2 are M series 2.5 ton's 1 is where all the P-6 Engineering Amtracks are (all have the 105 howitzer and no Apricots!). The two yeller squares below "7" are M55? Self propelled arty. The area "north" is a strafing area....full of "DU" rounds and several more Ontos, M-41's, M'48's, Amtracks and some other "stuff"....

Don't anybody even THINK about calling the base and asking about any of this..."it doesn't exist" Rolling Eyes

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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: AFV 'Grave Yard'
Is this the "old" graveyard out at 29 Palms. The layout looks familar from all the times I went through there on gun runs in a phrog. Don't recall any ontos though.

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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject: Re: AFV 'Grave Yard'
No...this isn't the Stumps. It's a bit further north....past Edwards and NW of Irwin. _________________ Rob Another Ontos Guy

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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:12 am Post subject: Re: AFV 'Grave Yard'
What are P-6 engineering amtracks with 105 how? Never heard of them.

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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:31 am Post subject: Re: AFV 'Grave Yard'
Sorry....should have taken the time to be more specific! These lovely beasties www.amtrac.org/2atmc/Tracs/gen2.asp _________________ Rob Another Ontos Guy

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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:28 am
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Thats what I thought you were referring to, that vehicle known to the *"tracktor rats" as the "how 6", the version you picture (A1) you have posted didn't start to come off of the rebuild line till late 1960, you can tell that by the "doghouse" on the rear of the engine compartment deck.
The engineer vehicle known as the "E-1" has a mine plow and line charge launcher...what is this thing you are calling a "apricot"?
* In the Marine lingo a amtractor was known as a "tracktor rat", tankers as "clankers", and arty as "O-8 dumb-dumbs", track mechs were "sh*tfisters".

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