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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:43 pm Post subject: I need some help IDing these
Hello everyone, Can someone give me the proper designations for these vehicles? sucky pic's I know 1. T-80BV 2 BTR-D 3 ATM Berezina 4 T-55AD with the Drozd hard kill active protection system 5 ACRV M1974 (NATO designation) 6 SPU (Self-propelled floodlight) this worked well, thanks Doug Last edited by armyjunk2 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:58 am; edited 8 times in total

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:03 am Post subject: Re: I need some help IDing these
Number 1 is a T72B, with era. (Are these from Kubinka? Looks like their sheds) Number 4 is a T55AD en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...system.jpg

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:40 am Post subject: Re: I need some help IDing these
Pzkpfw-e Yes these are at Kubinka, always seems a couple I can't ID when I get home. and Thank you every lttle bit helps

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: I need some help IDing these
Number 1 is a T-80 (see vision slots for driver (3) and roadwheel arrangement in ''groups of two'', no exhaust on left side), probably a BV. T-72 has one vision slot for the driver and the roadwheels have equal space between them. regards Lesley

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:56 pm
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The T-55 is a T-55AD with the Drozd hard kill active protection system.

The second photo shows a BTR-D.

BMP: ATM "Berezina" (ATM stands for avariyno-transportnaya mashina) is a decommissioned BMP-1 converted into a civilian multi-purpose emergency transport vehicle with built-up heated and glazed crew and passenger compartment sections. It is equipped with a load platform with a capacity of 500 kg. The "Berezina" was designed in the early 1990s for delivering goods and passengers to hard-to-reach places, welding in the field and towing road vehicles.

The vehicle under the T-55AD is most likely an ACRV M1974 (NATO designation), i.e. an 1V12/13/14/15/16 artillery command vehicle. Without a closer look at its turret I can't say more.

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: I need some help IDing these
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: I need some help IDing these
No some were missing I guess, I do have this one I believe its from the Searchlight Vehicle. I figure out of 300 or so vehicles i didn't miss many. Thanks everyone for your help so far.

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:40 pm
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You're welcome. By the way, the designation for the BMP variant is ATM Berezina. The "BMP:" was to denote the photo I was referring to.
As for the data plate, it's indeed for the searchlight vehicle. Let's run it through google translate, shall we?
"самоходная прожекторная установка (Self-propelled floodlight) SPU
Developed by the Sverdlovsk Heavy Engineering Plant KB (Design Bureau) in 1961. It is intended to assist armored forces in night actions.
Main characteristics of the SPU:
Combat weight, tonnes 20
Engine: V configured, four-stroke 12-cylinder liquid cooled V-105 diesel kW (HP) 294 (400)
Max speed, km/h 63.4
Range, km 700
Armored: bulletproof (i.e. armored against small arms fire)
Crew, men 3
Weapons: Projector: Type TP-15-1 lens diameter 1,500mm
Light Source: high-intensity arc lamp 150A 10 kW/110V.
Energy source: PG-22/115 generator."

The phonetic typing and virtual keyboard features are fantastic! Twisted Evil

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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:59 am Post subject: Re: I need some help IDing these
Wow, You guys are good are we in agreement on the names? Thanks everyone...........

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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:21 pm
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Again, you are welcome.
By the way, I wonder why the ACRV didn't have a data plate. It would have helped to positively identify it. If there actually was one and you photographed it, look for designations in the 1V12-16 range. Bear in mind that the letter V in Cyrillic script is the Latin B. Thus it would read 1B12/13/14/15/16.
Also, the vehicle behind the T-55AD is the Объект 167 (Article 167) T-62 based prototype. The suspension of the T-72 was derived from it.

otvaga2004.narod.ru/pu...ect167.htm

ser-sarajkin.narod2.ru...455085.htm

nnm.ru/blogs/krapich/v...dolzhenie/

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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: I need some help IDing these
IIRC it is the other way around, the cyrillic ''B'' is a latin ''V''. A latin ''B'' will be this; ''Б'' when translated to cyrillic. It should indeed on Russian signs as 1Bxx etc regards, Lesley

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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: I need some help IDing these
Yes, I tried to visually describe how it's written, not how it is pronounced. You're right on the pronounciations though. _________________ 1/72 and 1/76 scale fanatic.

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