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Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 7:58 am
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"New'' Centurion, parked in the vicinity of the range tower at the artillery range in 't Harde is Centurion mk.5/2 registration KX-10-30, serial(?) 152/450. Tank has the original markings of 11th Tank battalion and tactical number A10.

KX-10-30 is the oldest (AFAIK) surviving Centurion in the Netherlands at the moment.

If it comes from the impact area I don't know, it had no damage from artillery. When I have time I will try to get more info.

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Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
During the militracks event I also made a quick tour through the musuem and found some interresting info First of all the Leopard 1-V had been moved and it was possible to read the second marking at hull. The marking is: MDNL 5140 then something that looks like a eagle with the number 231 _________________ I'm Not Crazy, I'm Just Not You

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Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
Besides the known vehicles there was also something new It's a former Yugoslavian M36 tank destroyer _________________ I'm Not Crazy, I'm Just Not You

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Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
Super others to the list. And where is Croatia, Bosnia? For what replaced?

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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 5:39 am Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
- Michel_Krauss then something that looks like a eagle with the number 231 This is the stamp of the quality assurance department of the German procurement agency BAAIN Bw (formerly known as BWB) in Koblenz. The have subsidaries at every bigger manufacturer which are supervising the whole manufacturing process of military items and from time to time they put on stamps to document this. Jens

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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 8:54 pm
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- Asbjoern

- Michel_Krauss

then something that looks like a eagle with the number 231

This is the stamp of the quality assurance department of the German procurement agency BAAIN Bw (formerly known as BWB) in Koblenz. The have subsidaries at every bigger manufacturer which are supervising the whole manufacturing process of military items and from time to time they put on stamps to document this.

Jens

Thanks for the explanation Jens.

- Patrik

Super others to the list. And where is Croatia, Bosnia? For what replaced?

Concerning it's precise origins I can't tell.
The vehicle has no markings of any kind, except a sort of decal at the hull with a number.
The overall camo is black over green.

When I was taking photo's I thought, the decal would be of some sort of event or a trading company ...... so I did not take any good photo's of it.
However from what can be read, it's starts with tenkisti and then some sort of symbol.
It looks like somthing that can be found at Croatian vehicle's.

It replaces a M109 & M110 SPH that where on loan from another museum.

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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
The M109 and M110 are back at the artillery museum in 't Harde, which BTW have received a Sperwer UAV for their collection regards

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Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
- Michel_Krauss could_it_be_the_same_than_this_one? P-O _________________ soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates

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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
The picture is gone P-O so I can't tell There will be another US military vehicle show at Overloon in a month orso. I will try to find some numers _________________ I'm Not Crazy, I'm Just Not You

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Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:16 am
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- Michel_Krauss

The picture is gone P-O so I can't tell

There will be another US military vehicle show at Overloon in a month orso.
I will try to find some numers

Michel,

I would be very interested to see the other side of the vehicle. The paint sometimes tells us where the vehicle comes from.

thanks

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Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
P-O and Michel The M36 is not property of the Museum It is from a private collection in south-east Netherland The vehicle came from a former museum in Geneve wich does not exist anymore.I get some more info next month Walter

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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:49 am Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
The Centurion at 't Harde (KX-10-30) should be from the prop department (requisieten afdeling) and is intended for use as hard target.

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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
The KX-10-30 as mentioned before

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Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers
Noted last tuesday at Sindord trading in 't Harde was a Chieftain and as far I could see a RaketenJagdPanzer Jaguar. Unfortunately I could not see any markings etc and Sindorf had two Chieftains in the past.

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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:15 pm
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To get back to this one

- Michel_Krauss

Besides the known vehicles there was also something new
It's a former Yugoslavian M36 tank destroyer

I got a good photo of the decal at the front of the vehicle and tried to figure out the meaning.
First of all it's Croatian and I think it's something like:
Tank crew of the 3rd Motorized Guards Brigade "Church Mice"

tenkisti = tank crew
3. GMtBr = 3rd Gardijska motorizirana brigada = Motorized Guards Brigade
crkveni miševi = church mice

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