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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:32 pm
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Hi,

www.warhistoryonline.c...21862.html

Mr. Wheatcroft owns the second Panther II (or parts) ?
Would be great news.

Who knows more?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:36 pm
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The only panther II I know of is the the Armor and Calvary Collection (formally the Patton Museum.) Maybe they mean the later production Panther with the machine gun port and the "chinned" turret.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:34 pm
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The only official Panther II is the Benning one - I'll be skeptical that they've found another until I've seen a picture. Alternatively maybe they mean Panther II turret, and they've got hold of the one at Bovington (bottom picture).

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:57 pm
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Hi,

Well I do not believe it either until I see a picture. But you never know what he found in Russia.
The Bovington turret is not a Panther II turret.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:45 pm
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In what way is it not a Panther II turret? Are you thinking it's from an Ausf F?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:34 pm
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The schmalturm turret was for the Panther F tank only. NO TURRETS were ever built for the Panther II tank.



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:56 pm
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- JeffStringer
The schmalturm turret was for the Panther F tank only. NO TURRETS were ever built for the Panther II tank.



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To add on to what Jeff said, the fact that no turrets were built for the Panther II is noted in the Tom Jentz book "Germany's Panther Tank."
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:30 pm
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Of course!

I have studied the Panther and those two versions... the Panther II and Panther F exclusively and ALL you want to know is in that publication, along with Panzer Tracts.




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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:35 pm
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From what I know none of the 3 Wheatcroft Panthers is a II. They are all Ausf. A. One Demag early (the one restored) with the slot/flap MG mount and two mid production hulls. One of the remaining A will be made into a D with components on hand and a new glacis plate (the one on it is shot to bits). So unless he has a number 4 tucked away somewhere? Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:12 pm
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Who is in contact with Mr. Wheatcroft and will ask him?
Member Zundappuk?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:06 pm
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- WimD.
Who is in contact with Mr. Wheatcroft and will ask him?
Member Zundappuk?

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I can't promise anything as I don't speak with him very often, and if he wants to keep it quiet then so be it.

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