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Some wrecks and relics at Beverlo, Belgium
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject: Some wrecks and relics at Beverlo, Belgium
Some wrecks which are used on the ''molotovcocktail'' range at Beverlo near Leopoldsburg, Belgium. IIRC this is a M59 Spartan? Unknown (by me) wheeled vehicle The improvised cocktails and the effect...

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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: Some wrecks and relics at Beverlo, Belgium
Neat! _________________ Trevor Dr Trevor Larkum Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk EVs

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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: Some wrecks and relics at Beverlo, Belgium
'Unknown by me' = Staghound _________________ Inevitably Jared

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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: Some wrecks and relics at Beverlo, Belgium
At least somebody is drinking Jack Daniels.

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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject: Re: Some wrecks and relics at Beverlo, Belgium
The first vehicle appears to be an M75 APC versus an M59. Gary

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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: Some wrecks and relics at Beverlo, Belgium
- binder001 The first vehicle appears to be an M75 APC versus an M59. Gary I agree. _________________ "TUMBLEWEED"

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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: Some wrecks and relics at Beverlo, Belgium
- L.Delsing Spartan? Yes. _________________ Trevor Dr Trevor Larkum Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk EVs

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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:30 pm
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Hello Lesley

The first one is without a doubt a M75 APC, the Belgian army used them until about 20 years ago. Lots off them serve now as hard target on a range in Belgium.

Trevor,
I have to disagree with you, it looks like a spartan but it's a Striker. The lower part on the rear deck is where the box with swingfire missiles are stored.

Striker

Spartan

The last one is indeed a Staghound

Michel

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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: Some wrecks and relics at Beverlo, Belgium
Tichenor, well spotted! What a waste of an interesting variant. _________________ Trevor Dr Trevor Larkum Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk EVs

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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:04 pm
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It may have been one of those pesky Strikers we opposed during the fall of '84 Reforger "Roaring Lion" along with their Scorpions, JP Kanone, and Leo 1's of the Belgium Forces.

I remember a day where we had a lull and we went over to some Leo 1 Crews. Had a pretty good time. None of us could speak Flemish and they didn't speak any English, so the common language ended up being German. I was just a young PFC Tank Driver at the time. My ability to speak German allowed me to tag along with the more senior troops and NCO's.

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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:26 pm
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It may have been one of those pesky Strikers we opposed during the fall of '84 Reforger "Roaring Lion" along with their Scorpions, JP Kanone, and Leo 1's of the Belgium Forces.

Oops, that makes me think, 84 Roaring Lion, that was my first FTX. At that time my unit, 8 Linie, was eqiuped with JPK's and M113 Milan, and we had quite some encounters with M60's on the "Battlefield". At those FTX's ther where only two units equiped with JPK, one Flemisch and one French, so it's posible we did meet there somewere in Germany.

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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: Some wrecks and relics at Beverlo, Belgium
Michel, There is a chance you might have been credited with "Killing" the tank I was in during this exercise (Along with the rest in our platoon). We were "Orange" forces and were assessed by the "Umpire" when we exposed our flank on a ridge. There was a JPK in the wood line that no one expected, since we were told not to expect any contact for a while. Joe D

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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Some wrecks and relics at Beverlo, Belgium
Joe One off the biggest advantages of the JPK was its low profile, so it was easy to hide. It was fast, turned very fast and was fun to drive. Only the main gun was out of time (90mm where everyone else had 105mm). I had a great time on them, feeled sad when they where scraped. Michel

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