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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:37 pm Post subject: Help with ID needed.
Can anyone ID this one for me ?

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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Help with ID needed.
Its a Shielder that has lost it mine projectors. _________________ Smashy

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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: Help with ID needed.
Thanks I found a pic. with the mine projectors. So I now know how it looks like. Walter

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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: Help with ID needed.
A few links for anyone not familiar with Shielder: www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAYSJ2SV0gs www.army.mod.uk/royale...t/700.aspx www.army.mod.uk/equipm.../1493.aspx _________________ Trevor Dr Trevor Larkum Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk EVs

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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:13 am Post subject: Re: Help with ID needed.
That open flatbed would make a very suitable starting platform for an armoured forward logistics vehicle, the same way the M548 is an unarmoured logistics vehicle. Would the British Army be smart eough to recognize reroling its Engineer vehicles to the Logistics Corps ... ?

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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:02 am
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That open flatbed would make a very suitable starting platform for an armoured forward logistics vehicle, the same way the M548 is an unarmoured logistics vehicle. Would the British Army be smart eough to recognize reroling its Engineer vehicles to the Logistics Corps ... ?

I see what you're getting at, and agree. I think the M548 is actually better suited, just by design because so much more of it's 'footprint" is actually available as cargo space than in the Spartan/Shielder family only because it seems fully half the vehicle length of the latter is occupied by running gear and crew area. M548 is more like a tracked long-bed pickup truck with maybe 3/4's of it's overall length available for cargo, etc.
Of course, they may not be operating any and have no commonality of parts which would be a problem.

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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:55 pm
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- Doug_Kibbey

I see what you're getting at, and agree. I think the M548 is actually better suited, just by design because so much more of it's 'footprint" is actually available as cargo space than in the Spartan/Shielder family only because it seems fully half the vehicle length of the latter is occupied by running gear and crew area. M548 is more like a tracked long-bed pickup truck with maybe 3/4's of it's overall length available for cargo, etc.

Agreed...

- Doug_Kibbey

Of course, they may not be operating any and have no commonality of parts which would be a problem.

... so it's interesting to note that the Rapier missile system, which was mounted on M548 as Tracked Rapier, has been replaced by Starstreak on, you guessed it, the Stormer chassis - same as Shielder. It may be all about commonality, since the Stormer clearly shares more components with the CVR series than M548, and CVR is going to be around for a while (maybe a long while with the problems with FRES).

Muckleburgh Tracked Rapier
Stormer on Wikipedia

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