±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: spadgham
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6643

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 229
Total: 229
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Member Screenshots
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Home
16: Photo Gallery
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Photo Gallery
20: Home
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Photo Gallery
39: Photo Gallery
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Photo Gallery
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: CPGlang
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Home
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Photo Gallery
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Photo Gallery
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: CPGlang
72: Community Forums
73: Photo Gallery
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Downloads
77: Photo Gallery
78: Community Forums
79: Downloads
80: Photo Gallery
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Photo Gallery
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Member Screenshots
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Photo Gallery
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Photo Gallery
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Home
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Your Account
141: Your Account
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: CPGlang
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Community Forums
155: CPGlang
156: Community Forums
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Photo Gallery
163: Community Forums
164: Home
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: CPGlang
168: Community Forums
169: CPGlang
170: Photo Gallery
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: CPGlang
174: Home
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Home
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: CPGlang
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Photo Gallery
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Community Forums
207: Member Screenshots
208: Home
209: Home
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Home
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Photo Gallery
217: Photo Gallery
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Photo Gallery

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
What happened to the MBR? :: Archived
This is a forum for Software related items such as OS', Virus notices, cool or free programs, etc. Gaming software should go in the gaming folder pertaining to the current info.
Post new topic    Revive this topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  Software

Topic Archived View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Shadow_Bshwackr
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Posts: 6989
Location: Central Illinois, USA
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:34 pm
Post subject: What happened to the MBR?

It seems as if there's been a rash of XP crashing that involves destroying the MBR Partition(Master Boot Record) not only making it impossible to boot, but the damage seems to extend to Windows not seeing the HardDrive(s). Symptoms will be...

1) After you reinstall XP, the computer will reboot to finish the install only to keep crashing and starting the reboot process over while staying in this loop.

2) Reformatting the drive(s) doesn't fix the problem even though XP seems to install normally until the reboot process, then the loop issue comes back.

The process of fixing is in using the utility program called "Ranish Partition Manager". This little program will let you 'boot' and fix all kinds of issues including the Master Boot and HD partitions.


Ranish Partition Manager

A word of note, if you don't know anything about this sort of thing..STAY AWAY as you could do more harm than good. On the other hand, if the computer seems hosed, what do you have to loose...lol

To get Ranish Partition Manager, Click HERE!

Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Uhu_Rodion
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 14, 2004
Posts: 1437
Location: L'Aquila, Italy
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:11 am
Post subject: Re: What happened to the MBR?

Saved the link, Jerry, thaaaaaaank, you Smile

I'm just a bit confused - I suppose it's not the XOSL tool the one you refer to, though it looks great if, as I plan, I'm going to make a new Linux partition and need a multiple boot loader.

Amongst the Partition Manager versions there enlisted, which is the one you're actually using? The "stable" 2.40 or the "beta beta beta" 2.44?

Anyway, I'm downloading them all Mr. Green
Wink
Marco
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
Shadow_Bshwackr
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Posts: 6989
Location: Central Illinois, USA
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:56 pm
Post subject: Re: What happened to the MBR?

I used the 2.44 Marco...:wink:
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Uhu_Rodion
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 14, 2004
Posts: 1437
Location: L'Aquila, Italy
PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:44 pm
Post subject: Re: What happened to the MBR?

I just got back my rig, with the following changes (some had been in the plan already before the crash, so I just took advantage of the circumstance):

1. old HD moved to slave - I expressely asked not to make anything at all to it - wanted to see what was going to happen.
2. new 160 Gig master HD, Ultra-ATA 133 7200 rpm, only Win-XP pro installed.
3. replaced old two ram cards by 256 Mb's each, clock 266, with two 1 Gig each clock 333 - the maximum my mother-board can bear.

After the intervention, the old HD shows all its old content perfectly available and usable, not a file corrupted, so that I could restore all my archives in no time. I also re-installed 90% of the previous apps, this time FS9 on the renamed F:/ drive, and FSX on the new C:/ (yes, I got it, hehe!).

Have to go in a rush, I'll add some lines later.
Laughing
Marco
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
Shadow_Bshwackr
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Posts: 6989
Location: Central Illinois, USA
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:21 am
Post subject: Re: What happened to the MBR?

That's great news Marco!! Did you try the Ranish program?
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Uhu_Rodion
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 14, 2004
Posts: 1437
Location: L'Aquila, Italy
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:45 am
Post subject: Re: What happened to the MBR?

Not yet, Jerry, but that's exactly what I'm going to do since Monday on - not today: I want to keep FS9 safe for until this Sunday flight is over Wink

As I wrote, the old HD's content was integer, and that makes me wonder, as I supposed a missing partition would have wiped out all the stuff in there. So I start thinking it really was a damaged Windows registry, and still asking myself how it could happen. Shocked

Yesterday evening I simulated an attempt at installing Linux, just to see if it could see the Win partitions on both HDs, and, yes, it did, both marked as NTFS as they were. I stopped at that point, 'cause I'm not yet sure about how to cut a portion of a Win partition for Linux without damaging anything. What Linux suggests me is not at all what I want, and undertaking an "expert" procedure gives birth to some riddles I'm not yet able to solve.

It's at this point that the Ranish Partition Manager might be of help, and I also want to see what the graphic XOSL tool can do, but not before tomorrow Mr. Green


Marco
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
Shadow_Bshwackr
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Posts: 6989
Location: Central Illinois, USA
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:21 am
Post subject: Re: What happened to the MBR?

I'm updating this post to include another great utility for Master Boot Record or MBR repair. This on is called Super Grub and as always, it's a another one with my favorite price of FREE...

To see what SuperGrub is and get the download, Click HERE!

Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:34 pm
Post subject: Re: What happened to the MBR?

This recently happened to Stoopy Mk.II's brand-new new computer and although the onboard disgnostics are limite, the symptoms are exactly as described and I suspected the same thing. In our case, it turned out to be worthwhile to let the manufacturer suspect it was a bad drive and let them send a new drive (better unit, Western Digitial as opposed ot the Hitachi drive of same capacity it came with) and they ALSO sent us the REAL software install CD for XP and all the programs it came bundled with.

Turns out the "System Restore" CD in the box has practically NOTHIGN on it at all other than a routine that activates the "restore partition" on the hard drive...which was munched since the MBR was taco'd. So in reality, we'd have had no way to reinstall everything if we'd found out any different.

I was told that there's usually a $20 fee for "creating" the actual reinstall media DVD, but since we had a "bad hard drive" and it wasn't our fault, they provided it for free as partof the warranty action. Something to keep in mind on when purchasing some new systems.

Any word yet on what may be behind this sudden outbreak of HD/MBR problems?

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Shadow_Bshwackr
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Posts: 6989
Location: Central Illinois, USA
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:49 pm
Post subject: Re: What happened to the MBR?

No, I haven't heard anything that's causing those problems, but I have noticed it seems more likely on SATA drives than the older IDE drives. (At least that's been my personal experience).

My own machine munched the MBR not long ago and I ended changing the active partition to another partition I had made earlier on that drive. It seems the old partition just wouldn't 'take' the OS for some reason. By changing the active partition to different partition, the OS went on without a hitch. Odd I know, but it works. Shocked

With SuperGrub, you can 'fix' your MBR, but if the partition is hosed, you're still outta' luck I'm afraid. Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Uhu_Rodion
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 14, 2004
Posts: 1437
Location: L'Aquila, Italy
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:57 pm
Post subject: Re: What happened to the MBR?

More than three months passed since this happened, so I forgot some of the details, but the thing was, as I wrote before, that once the old HD had been moved as slave, I was able to see all its content again, and so I managed to save all the archives and precious stuff there stored.

The first thing I did then was not, as it would have been obvious maybe, a reformatting of the HD, but instead I begun to delete the content, folder after folder, until it came out that there was a single file in the Windows folder that I wasn't allowed to delete, because the system told me it was in use.

Unfortunately, I failed to note down the name, but it was a very large one, and the statement it was "in use", no way, had to be false, because the system was now operating from another HD. In the end, I couldn't get rid of it, and the only thing left to do was, at last, to reformat.

I came to the conclusion that somehow that file was scrambled, and possibly responsible for the failure of the MBR - evidently, that file was not on the MBR - several Mb's big, too big for it.
Shocked
I'm still wandering what really happened, and if possible I'm even more surprised reading that this is apparently a rather common problem, though there's no clear explanation.

The only thing I'm sure about: the affected disk wasn't a bad one - a deep scandisk found no damaged sectors, and now it is devoted exclusively to FS9 and faultlessly working. In brackets, it was not a SATA, but a standard ATA-EIDE HD; my new HD is a Ultra-ATA one, so I'm crossing my fingers, though I don't think the trouble is related to this.

Hope you manage to solve your problem quickly, Stoopy, and please report of any news that can shed light on the mistery.
Wink
Marco
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Revive this topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  Software
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours

Archive Revive
Username:
This is an archived topic - your reply will not be appended here.
Instead, a new topic will be generated in the active forum.
The new topic will provide a reference link to this archived topic.